CJXander (EUNE)
: I've stopped reading at the word "defensive", there isn't anyone manually checking the chatlog unless you open a ticket. And even there, the answer will be 100% the same.
Yeah... I didn't really see any point in trying to appeal.. I'm just an average person that has no online presence tbf… it would just be a lost cause. However the failed attempt at making a system to clear up the community needs to be addressed. It hasn't worked and also it's been banning players unfairly. Sure, people that ride a moral high horse all day and think somehow they're immune to being frustrated or annoyed will always just assume all bans are deserved.. it's not the case.
: How are you confused? I didn't even attempt to imply that. I stated that on one occasion, I was in the wrong. The other two pieces of evidence were in relation to me being flamed and trying to explain a choice I made item-wise and get back to playing. The flame from teammates persisted so I said "%%%% off" and continued playing half heartedly. So no, you were not understanding correctly, you were just drawing a conclusion that suited your means. Also... why does it matter if people flame each other. Also the figure they site about people being banned hasn't changed since my last ban a couple of years ago.. so that's clearly not updated.
Like I said, it's fine. I'll just stop playing and not make another account, I'm sure the League community will be the most pleasant in the gaming world when the ban system does what it's intended for... oh wait? how long has it been in place again?
: I'm confused if I understand correctly, you complain that immature kids go at each other flaming and abusing and this should be changed. Yet in the same post you criticize Riot for taking action against such behaviour. Did I miss something or is this a case of "deal with the other players but let me do what I %%%%ing want"?
How are you confused? I didn't even attempt to imply that. I stated that on one occasion, I was in the wrong. The other two pieces of evidence were in relation to me being flamed and trying to explain a choice I made item-wise and get back to playing. The flame from teammates persisted so I said "%%%% off" and continued playing half heartedly. So no, you were not understanding correctly, you were just drawing a conclusion that suited your means. Also... why does it matter if people flame each other. Also the figure they site about people being banned hasn't changed since my last ban a couple of years ago.. so that's clearly not updated.
: I'd cool off a bit, and give it another shot. Gather some friends, start having fun. Guess you've entered that vicious cycle, where you play only for the time-wasting, and not for actual fun. When I "burn-out" (happens on a 1-2 seasonal basis), I do a couple of month break. This year I traveled through Europe from July to late August, I rarely played from hotel rooms and such. When I got back to it, LOL felt like a breeze of fresh air. When I left it, I tilted on a daily basis. Guess I have a love-hate relationship with the game, on/off, but in the end, it's still the Only game that I play, and tbh, I'm pretty damned good at it ( inflated EGO much ? ). Hope you can find peace in your head as well. Yea, you had a shit day, happens to all of us, let it cool off, forget lol for a month, then return, see what's new. Maybe you like it. If not ? No prob, there are a bunch of other cool things to do as a hobby. Best of luck to you !
I know what you mean, I enjoyed the game, I still do... it's fun. However, the people, the abusive chatting and snakey behaviour.. there is only so much positivity one can display before just giving up. Trying hard to win a game with/for people that refuse to help you in any fashion, refuse to acknowledge your effort and then %%%%% and complain at every hurdle.. sucks the fun right out of it. Then ontop of that to be provided with chat logs that were so "meh", with 10 lines of me just trying to explain a decision, or ask for help.. before just telling someone to go %%%% themselves.. was a massive slap in the face. I appreciate your words, although this was the last straw with League. Really %%%%ing sad too cause Winter is Coming :( outdoor activities are a massssssive no no xD Have a good day man, pzpz TM
: > Have you ever even had people insult you for a choice you make and then feel baffled when they don't understand, or try to but then instead just insult you for a duration? It's annoying. Hence the rant. I play jungle since Season 4. Nuf said LOL. **** > Like I said... if you have to mute everyone because you fear you may end up insulting them... what kind of game is it? It's not a game, it's a cycle of misery. On the contrary, I mute extremely rarely. If I have to, I will obviously mute, before getting my head f#$ked with, and retaliating - that costing me my acc that I invested so much into. Usually I have pretty chill games, I play with my premades, we mess around n shit. Nothing too stressful. When I do ranked tho, be it solo/duo or flex I (mostly) play alone. And I get into a 220% hardcore mode, where I hyper-tryhard, and I'm this super-zen person. I am literally untiltable. And in VERY EXTREME cases, I just f#$king Alt+F4. If you wanna troll me hard, you run it down 3 times, then follow me around in my jungle trying to last hit my camps, I can hear your message loud and clear. We're not winning that one. So I simply leave, face the AFK-penalty (I do this so rarely that I NEVER triggered the leaverbuster on my acc), I go make a hot tea (either twinings earl grey with milk and honey added, or a combination of fruity and minty), light up on a - fine cut black dunhill - and chill for the next 20 minutes, till the troll is still in-game, being a miserable human being. I just don't give a f#4k mate, and you shouldn't either. Play the game, till it's fun for you, when it stopped being fun, go do smthn else. But if you wanna keep a healthy acc, you gotta respect the TOS.
I feel you man, I really do. I understand that I broke the TOS and that's cool.. that's not what I'm even mad about. It's the fact that it's so easy for people to be banned.. I mean, these people that were being morons and then reported me for it... are the chatlogs read and then taken for what they are? Do those players then get a warning? I think not? My gripe is with the system. No system should just be agreed to because "what else is there" The system failed long ago, it's just a lazy attempt at clearing up the scene... but it's also cleaning out people just trying to play. I just wanted to bring it up tbh, cause it needs reviewing. Doesn't matter to me anymore.. but it sucks knowing that I won't be the first or last person unjustly banned. In my mind, I %%%%ed up once and that was GG for this guy. Sidenote, I was a jungle main since s2 on and off... people just kill the fun.
: If you can't handle your emotions, and use the in-game tools that are given us to deal with trolls, well, that's your problem buddy. If you feel like your mental stability is going down the drain due to the LOL community, perhaps it's time you switched games ?
Also, to be fair, League is the only game I have played that has a ban system like this... League is also the only game I have played where I've been banned... Having to just accept people talking shit at you and then muting them... then after a few nights playing it all builds, you realise how much crap the players talk... how everyone appears to have a superiority complex.. surrounded by that and then compounded by the fact that when you do just call them on their bullshit you get hit with reports by the player and their friend... should they have one in-game. Seems more like terrorism..
: If you can't handle your emotions, and use the in-game tools that are given us to deal with trolls, well, that's your problem buddy. If you feel like your mental stability is going down the drain due to the LOL community, perhaps it's time you switched games ?
I would send the logs but I can't be bothered tbh. Emotions were fine in game.. like I said, only one case was I the one being a %%%%. As I said, the fact people complain so much and pick out others to vent on because their game is going down the shitter is the issue. I was bombarded by abuse for buying an item my teammates didn't agree with... IN A NORMAL. I never said I was going insane due to the community.. which is odd of you to say. I assume you've never encountered this then? Have you ever even had people insult you for a choice you make and then feel baffled when they don't understand, or try to but then instead just insult you for a duration? It's annoying. Hence the rant. Also... I've just been banned, so obviously I won't be playing the game again. My point is that the system is broken, it's giving power to children that are more than willing to insult and rage but want to take action on those who don't agree with them or hold all the same beliefs. Like I said... if you have to mute everyone because you fear you may end up insulting them... what kind of game is it? It's not a game, it's a cycle of misery.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Talented Menace,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A0TFTUjy,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-08-06T06:59:25.769+0000) > > There are cases where they've banned people for trolling. Depends how much attention it's getting I think. > They banned some Singed Support, that was actually winning most of his games and got to Diamond... just because his play was unorthodox. > > It's just so frustrating that the ban system has failed so many people and yet they continue to use it. It is rewarding the total assholes for their childish behavior. When they see you on the enemy team and they talk all that good stuff to their team to turn them against you from the offset and then you get 3/5 reports no matter what. It's just terrible. > > > Also... when someone trolls and you call insult them for trolling... all Riot will see if the words typed, even if it clearly states they're trolling it doesn't matter... you insulted. > They take the chatlogs out of context, or don't read the content... PUNISH PUNISH PUNISH. Good message, standing up for yourself and letting your thoughts be known when people are wronging you, is bad. Great message to send to people. Effectively, these systems are part of the reason that the youth are always so easily offended. > You can't make a comment about anything without someone crying. Just try to enjoy your free Vacation from the Game like myself. I`m not banned but i simply refuse to play it in the current state.
You're right. It's fun for a short period of time until you hit that point of when the people in game... don't seem to even act like normal human beings if that makes sense? It changes the way you think which is soooo horrible. Every tiny thing seems to matter to these people, even when leveling.. people that have played before are HARD flaming the noobies and it's horrible to watch. One of the "Chat reports" was me defending a noob guy against the flame of some person that thought he was better... either way.. got reported xD. The game is in a weird state atm.. it feels pointless sometimes. S3 = primetime... maybe before but I didn't play then!
: > [{quoted}](name=Talented Menace,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=A0TFTUjy,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-08-03T07:08:29.038+0000) > > I understand that. It appears people abuse it more often than not though. > > I just really dislike seeing people baiting others into insulting them and then egging them on further by saying they're being reported now. It's disgusting and seems to create toxicity on its own. People adapting to the "Rules". There is still this "Elave" Player: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLesf-Bd2OQ He was never perma. banned. So like your Title says. The System simply is not working good enough. But for Rito it`s pretty much all fine as long People don`t abuse the Chat. Nonsense System.
There are cases where they've banned people for trolling. Depends how much attention it's getting I think. They banned some Singed Support, that was actually winning most of his games and got to Diamond... just because his play was unorthodox. It's just so frustrating that the ban system has failed so many people and yet they continue to use it. It is rewarding the total assholes for their childish behavior. When they see you on the enemy team and they talk all that good stuff to their team to turn them against you from the offset and then you get 3/5 reports no matter what. It's just terrible. Also... when someone trolls and you call insult them for trolling... all Riot will see if the words typed, even if it clearly states they're trolling it doesn't matter... you insulted. They take the chatlogs out of context, or don't read the content... PUNISH PUNISH PUNISH. Good message, standing up for yourself and letting your thoughts be known when people are wronging you, is bad. Great message to send to people. Effectively, these systems are part of the reason that the youth are always so easily offended. You can't make a comment about anything without someone crying.
: Remove ban system, it doesn't work.
So, after the same guy flaming and trolling multiple games I've been in, flaming other people and then when we're winning bragging about how he is in Diamond, he kept reporting me because I was calling him out on it. Further to this, if he was on the opposing team, he would tell them how I was horrible and flaming everyone, so then they would flame me... I am sick of this reoccurring theme. I have now been Temporarily banned, no chat banned. OBVIOUSLY the case hasn't been reviewed by a human because it's quite clear i'm only defending myself from his and his teams attacks on me. Did I swear, yes. Did I start the war, no. Thanks Riot, you have successfully annoyed me for the last time. Your system is broken and your refusal to rectify it has probably lost you more players than you realise, despite the figures you throw at people. You ban peoples account but don't IP ban them all because you know they will likely make another account and spend money on skins. You have failed your community trying to police it and quite frankly it's disgusting how little you care.
: The Report/Honor System is a mainly a Tool to silence People.
I understand that. It appears people abuse it more often than not though. I just really dislike seeing people baiting others into insulting them and then egging them on further by saying they're being reported now. It's disgusting and seems to create toxicity on its own.
: > Would you remove the police because criminals slip through the cracks constantly? The most appropriate analogy.
If the criminals were consistently framing people while escaping punishment.. then yes.
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