BereInBurta (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Gundam Otaku,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=j5vce8L9,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-03T09:22:33.714+0000) > > Ok thanks for the comment but I think you missed what I said and if I made it seem like her gameplay was satisfying it was namely done so I had no bias against her. I said nothing about he damage due too that not being a concern the main thing I pointed out was the E. As a 2.1million illaoi main you should know that her E is her main harass right unless you disagree with that statement then could you explain what is. But back too the E as you know the spirit lasts for 10sec I only pointed out that due too how easy you can fonditems with 20 or 10% cooldown her E becomes a short enough cooldown that when the spirit goes back her E is back up which allows her too use it again that was the point that I was getting across which people get tilted over. Now I did suggest a nerfs yes but I then said I know they won't.... as that would make her too weak and yes cc can be used against her but when your cc is over and she can use her abilities again what happens she can fight back. > Also yes I am bronze and yes I do find it hard too fight her sometimes but I try too improve but I understand that when you see a low elo player you will think oh her come them complaining again but sometimes they will have a point The reason you don't have a point is because you think it's easy to land an e.... wich it isn't, people actually move arround and stay behind minions, a good yasou will block my e every time, a good riven also, a good fiora aswell,irelia can move so fast it's a struggle, not to go into poke top laners that play from range, to a yorik is nearly impossible to land an e due to his minions, it's hard work to land an e to people that actually know the illaoi matchup, so that's the reason you are wrong... you don't land every single E everytime you cast it, actually most of the time you miss it, again.. if the opponent knows the illaoi matchup, and plays behind minons etc. (but again, i bet if i play in bronze i can make her look like a godlike monster, unkillable laner, landing every E)
Ok when did I ever say it was easy for her to land her E.....or that she can land it ever time.... the point you want too deny is due to it being a hard skill shot to land..... I think the main issue you are having is that I never said in the post that she does have counterplay and opponents that she has a hard time against if so then I can put it in if you so want but then when you do land it what happens then please don't deny the point out right just because a skillshot is hard to land and hey if you did go in bronze and play illaoi you maybe a God play but that's only if you are facing a player who doesn't know the match up right :).
Cułtist (EUW)
: I got your point, but is a lane bully. Just that. Is not a great split pusher, is not a great duelist, her team fight is_ meh_, you pick a ranged top and is a 4v5. She has a really poor comeback. If she gets ahead can be a pain, like can be a Renek, a Darius... and you can't just walk out of their R. Also she can't dive you easy as other champs would. She is not in a great moment as toplaner. If she needs something is a buff because she cant do her work well. And about the jungler, im sorry but he doesnt have to win your lane. He haves a whole map to cover, objectives and things to farm. So if you are losing and the jungler is good he wont gank you and he will try to snowball winning lanes. (And please don't compare Thresh with Illaoi) Have a nice day and git gud.
Ok thanks for the comment now you say you got my point However you used me saying she is a lane bully as the main reason...... but that's not what I was going on about at all.... but I won't go on that cause you said you got the point so on to your next point about the jungler, I know that..... i know that all too well as if I also play that role but the reason I pointed out the jungler is that you only need 1 just 1 gank if you lose then the jungler will focus too snowball the winning lanes fair way too do it then if you win the gank you got the lane on track so you saying (has whole map too cover then saying (if he good he won't gank you) kind of contradicts what you also never said jungler had too win you lane so yeah..... And I compared thresh and illaoi for 1 reason and that was if riot messes with there kit they become overly weak so just a fact for you if you didn't know thresh is a top tier support but if riot changed any of his kit he drops from top too low so yeah.... Again thanks for comment and trying to git gud :).
BereInBurta (EUNE)
: I have 2,1 million points on illaoi, true most of the times she wins lane, but so what... if she's the only one in team with hp, and the enemy have tiny bit of cc.. she's dead, if both enemy toplaner and jgl have cc, she;s dead... it's so easy to destroy her with just a little bit of cc, if she would be so op .. i would have been at least diamond, but i`m not.. i'm struggeling in plat for 2 seasons, this is the 3rd, and most of the time, i just look from top, how i lose the game and there is nothing i can do to prevent it, nothing. I can't tp bot, coz i'm not a riven, that can stun and make a nice play.. i need to catch an e, i need my flash up, i need enemy to not have any sort of cc... and so on. Ppl rarely play arround illaoi, i take my time to put tentacles on mid or a lane we are sieging, then team goes randomly in jungle, or chasing someone, and i have to go with them... no tentacles arround... i mean... illaoi gameplay is not as satisfying as you make it look, really.. is not. You get a little bit of advantage in early game, but excluding the games - wich are not many - were you can 1v9, becasue they are either all ad and have to come close to you, and they don;t have cc, or you just got so fast ahead and have some jgl or someone to play arround you... it's not so many games were you can take your advantage and win a game. You depend on your team, to either tank before you, or protect you in any way from cc, while you do your dmg... otherwise, if enemy have a little knowledge, and by now they do, they walk away from ure ult, or if they have cc.. they cc and burst you down, and it's nothing you can do, you need to do dmg to sustain. Btw, illaoi was allready nerfed, her dmg was nerfed a few patches ago, now you want even more nerf.... because you have a hard time on top.. man... if she was any good, ppl would be playing her in lcs or something... she's just a trash champ, belive me... i still like her, i wouldn't have 2,1 million on her if i didn't.. but she's not so op as you make her look, that she would need nerf. (p.s, checked your profile, i see your bronze, maybe that's why you think she needs nerf... probably if i go in bronze game i can make her look godlike, but she's not.. really she isn;t)
Ok thanks for the comment but I think you missed what I said and if I made it seem like her gameplay was satisfying it was namely done so I had no bias against her. I said nothing about he damage due too that not being a concern the main thing I pointed out was the E. As a 2.1million illaoi main you should know that her E is her main harass right unless you disagree with that statement then could you explain what is. But back too the E as you know the spirit lasts for 10sec I only pointed out that due too how easy you can fonditems with 20 or 10% cooldown her E becomes a short enough cooldown that when the spirit goes back her E is back up which allows her too use it again that was the point that I was getting across which people get tilted over. Now I did suggest a nerfs yes but I then said I know they won't.... as that would make her too weak and yes cc can be used against her but when your cc is over and she can use her abilities again what happens she can fight back. Also yes I am bronze and yes I do find it hard too fight her sometimes but I try too improve but I understand that when you see a low elo player you will think oh her come them complaining again but sometimes they will have a point
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: > i don't know where you got that i related her to an adult all i stated was that her mind would have broke leading her to become fully oblivious to keep whatever state of mind she has left intact to say Assuming she works at all like us... remember this is a child given the power to alter physics... to a child your world is filled with fun and adventures, you don’t quite have a grasp on things like death, not completely. Zoe is probably to occupied with having fun to really notice things happening around her. > we don't know that Riot would probably never say anything on that matter due to the age of that subject so we would never no unless they went %%%% it and did so. and we also don't know how long she stayed as well. But we can make educated guesses... > It probably related to whatever change she was supposed to herald, and, obviously, she hadn't succeeded yet. It was a problem, but not an unfamiliar one. She wasn't really sure what the message was, who it was for, or even what it meant, but, in her experience, those details rarely mattered. The holy mathematics wanted to advance, and the messages generally fell into place shortly after she arrived. Zoe felt that was a pretty cool advantage of being an aspect. From this we can tell that Zoe heralds change but not consciously... she appears, what ever she heralds happens, she leaves to the next place... she has fun along the way but what she is heralding really isn’t something she has control of nor does it happen long after her arrival... so we can imagine she only stays for days if not months... also notice that Zoe has the attention span of an acorn, her lore even notes this... a child, easily distracted and easily bored... even if she stayed in one time period for long periods of time she isn’t going to stay put nor can you make her, you have given a child known for wandering off or running away for fun while mortal the ability to travel via wormhole... that’s not going to result in her staying in one place. > we don't know if she can bend time so that statement also cant be proven She definitely can. > Without slowing her pursuit, Zoe created a time bubble, turning it only half a planet's rotation, before launching it at the tree. The anomaly bounced before bursting against the tree's trunk. > For a second, the cute animal's past merged with the present. The night sky overtook the area, and twilight butterflies pulsed around it. The small creature fell into the tired, restful sleep of the previous evening, as its past's spiritual and mental state overwhelmed its current consciousness. That’s what her E is... her manipulating time. Zoe’s powers alter and bend physics... that means space and time... she can consciously control both at whim so it’s not out of the question that she is capable of time travel
well then it is your win in this argument well played {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: She is a child... so you can’t relate her quite that much to adults. She never watches anyone die, she leaves well before that point... so she makes new friends but she sees everyone as her friend and thus wouldn’t be affected by leaving a friend as to her she gets new ones straight away plus she doesn’t stick around long enough to form a serious attachment. So she was abducted long after her critical period, and she never gets heavy attachments to most people (maybe a few)... she also can bend the laws of physics so no reason why she can’t just go back in time and see them again.... hell I doubt she even understands if they die, she is a child so she is going to be pretty naive and oblivious. So mentally it’s unlikely she has got psychopathy... she shows none of the symptoms and doesn’t have an event which could cause it... she probably isn’t the most stable person ever but I think that’s just the result of giving a child the ability to alter physics. EDIT: with the ship, she is a child thus she shouldn’t be shipped with anyone... besides that kayn is a psychopath and thus is unlikely able to love Zoe... he is also confirmed by riot to have an unhealthy crush on zed. Also darkin hate Zoe as seen in aatrox’s interactions so I doubt kayn would get to know her without rhaast intervening
i don't know where you got that i related her to an adult all i stated was that her mind would have broke leading her to become fully oblivious to keep whatever state of mind she has left intact to say "She never watches anyone die, she leaves well before that point..." we don't know that Riot would probably never say anything on that matter due to the age of that subject so we would never no unless they went %%%% it and did so. and we also don't know how long she stayed as well. we don't know if she can bend time so that statement also cant be proven " she shows none of the symptoms and doesn’t have an event which could cause it." again we don't know and we can't say she shows the symptoms as she is no longer human so who knows but other then that thanks for the comment
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Masantha (EUW)
: Bilgewater Fan Fiction Competition - Voting Now Closed
I want to know how riot thought of my fan-fics Just a passing Gambler The Fiddler on the Deck (this one was my own champion concept)
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: Well that's the first time I've see a shipping between Morde and Kindred, but it seems fitting. A necromantic lich king seemly bent on enslaving all of runeterra, but has a secret soft spot to Lamb the spiritual embodiment of the Grim Reaper (or atleast half of him). I'm no writer but a few helpful points I'd like to mention: The text at a few bits feels clunky, use of commas and shorter sentences to get it flowing and popping. As an example, what you wrote: > Lamb then nods to Wolf and then they begin their walk to the castle at the sight of Kindred the army of the dead feel fear and begin to back away, from this sight Wolf begins to feel his excitement rise up. Could be written as "Lamb nods to wolf as they begin their walk to the castle. The undead army quivers and retreats at the sight of the two spirits, Wolf can feel his enthusiasm for the hunt rising from the hysteria of the enslaved undead." But that's just my thoughts. Overall I quite liked it, I always feel that Morde could just do with some loving to melt that cold undead heart.
Glad you liked it and thanks for the pointer i do agree with you and will do so in future fic's the reason for it being chunky was trying to merge their characters together which took most of my focus but again thanks for the pointer and glad you enjoyed it
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Masantha (EUW)
: Bilgewater Fan Fiction Competition
How will we be notified that are fan-fic has been chosen {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: Just a passing Gambler - Bilgewater fan fiction competition entry
just a little knowledge Tyrannosaurus means tyrant lizard {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
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: Nerfs won't really affect him too much. Good players will adpt to the changes. Why can't you?
no i have and to be honest i would prefer the old ornn before they buffed him
: Seems youre the type of player to cry when op champs get gutted. Ornn has recieved only buffs for 5+ patches, he is a priority pick even at the highest level of play just because he can do everything. The nerfs are long overdue and deserved but there should be more.
seeing as you missed the point let me explain i know he is broken he does max health damage and can fight a fed adc and win he needs the nerfs what annoted me was they removed his survivability from cc thats what i'm on about if they gutted the brittle damage to 1% i wouldn't give a shit i enjoy playing him
: Are you the type of player who cries when youre broken champ gets nerfed seems so
are you the type of player who plays more broke champions and want to keep the ones that hurt them down seems so <3
: Ornn is a champion with a great early game, a great late game, and makes his team stronger late... in fact he was designed as a hyper carry tank, someone who becomes strong late game due to what they bring to their team... but to fulfil this niche he can't have a dominant early game, it's the same as if koggie had a good early game or nasus... it breaks the game. So his early game does need nerfing... a champion like that should never have an early game comparable to renekton yet still be the hyper carry top... only reason he should ever get his early game like what he has now he would be to remove his second passive where he buffs his team's items... something that should never happen. It's his early game, or his identity... that's the choice here... riot chose correct.
thank you you understood gj
: That = burst damage. I'm talking about his ult knockup btw ^^
how is that burst it damage comes from the brittle and does not do that much unless you have gone up against an ap ornn. His ult is for engage so if your saying that its only because the enemy has jumped onto you just an example of burst is a full ap lux her ult can half health you or if your an adc could on shot you thats burst just to clarify im not having a go at you i'm just having a debate so i can understand your where your coming from whats the role you play and what champion did you play to get burst down.
: Ornn's strength is that he is a tank with burst damage and an AoE knockup ult. Needs severe nerfs, even more than those planned by rito.
he does not have burst his damage comes from the brittle which deals max health and his E is a knockup with terrain there are alot more champions that need nerfs.
: Riot over buffed him in order to make him viable.So they just nerf him back unless you want the first version of him. I find ornn quite strong at the moment so yeah riot has to do something about it.He is already getting picked up quite a lot at lcs too.
riot did buff him but only so players could play better if i'm honest i would have that version back as i saw no issue with it and i understand why he is strong and i pointed it out but the only reason he is getting picked and banned in lcs is because unlike sion/kled and malphite is because he is the best champ to start teamfight and is very reliable to win lane
: I mastered him in free time and I can confirm that 51-36 CD on such Ult is ridiculous.Just compare with Kled's, Malph's and Sion's.
yes i will agree on his ult cooldown but with the runes isnt going to do much to weaken him the issue is the nerf came out of know where and is removing the passive in his only ablity to survive from cc thats what i'm getting at and orrn is not hard to master and i bet ornn is not your main
: no it is right even too weak of a nerf he needs to be nerfed harder
are you the type of player who gets destroyed in lane and goes into all chat to say broken champ??
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: Also are you high? You want to keep champs locked down in an area for a full minute while taking damage? That's beyond broken.
no thanks for bringing that up i forgot to put the length of how long the would stay in the area of effect
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Benshirro (EUW)
: [Let us know what you think](http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/champion-reveal-kayn). :)
Now i have a question does varus have a darkin in his bow as Rhaast has a quote with him saying "Now all we need to do is find Aatrox and its a party" so is this true and if so could that mean Varus bow will break free and become a new champion??

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