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Cypherous (EUW)
: > But think, if they get punished on at least 5 of those champs and if he keeps with that behaviour sooner or later he will be in some kind of trouble by maybe almost running out of champs. Point is the punishment isn't going to happen, because bad scores aren't against the rules nor will they be, i was just pointing out one of the major flaws in your "plan" > bad on purpose so he can play that champ again. He will get tons of reports for intentionally feending. Reporting for intentionally feeding only matters if he does intentionally feed, playing a champ you're not good with isn't intentionally feeding, most players here can't actually tell the difference so they say you're inting if you're 0/2/0 lol
> [{quoted}](name=Cypherous,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TiMH5E1W,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-09T16:50:03.403+0000) > > Point is the punishment isn't going to happen, because bad scores aren't against the rules nor will they be, i was just pointing out one of the major flaws in your "plan" > > Reporting for intentionally feeding only matters if he does intentionally feed, playing a champ you're not good with isn't intentionally feeding, most players here can't actually tell the difference so they say you're inting if you're 0/2/0 lol I have seen that. Its stupid claiming that being for example 0/2/0 as you said, is feeding (however, if it is 0/2/0 at 4 minutes to enemy laner , you know where it is going xD but thats not the point). That isnt feeding, but, in the end, dont you think that, as was said by other players in this topic, picking a champ that you have none/very low experience for ranked, should be considered trolling and deserved to be punhished? And i really think it should be to all champions, not just some of them, cause we all saw people completly failing at the easiest champions of the game due to not knowing the champion. I mean, one things is to be, for example lvl 7 poppy and have a terrible game. Ok, i get it, that person doesnt deserve to be punished, s**t happens, its true. But having a 800 MP xerath supp? (and i am not saying it is a troll pick, cause i accept almost every champ on any lane , when proved). Dont you think there should be a way of punishing that kind of behaviour.
: First timing a champ in ranked is considered trolling. But it really depends on the champion for me. If someone is new to rammus. It's not a problem If someone is new to yasuo. It is a problem. I think the ranked system is fine. But the players who aren't smurfs that pick low experience champs have no intention to win the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Emperor Talquin,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TiMH5E1W,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-09T17:45:56.718+0000) > > First timing a champ in ranked is considered trolling. But it really depends on the champion for me. > > If someone is new to rammus. It's not a problem > > If someone is new to yasuo. It is a problem. > > I think the ranked system is fine. But the players who aren't smurfs that pick low experience champs have no intention to win the game. Ty. What i was trying to create was some way of preventing this stupidity to happen. Cause that is indeed trolling, can indeed be enough trigger for some people to flamme and they are never punished for that
Cypherous (EUW)
: > where players like them, lets take vel cos example, get the champion they get those terrible scores with, blocked from being picked/ switched for example, for 10 ranked games as a start 2/10/2 just indicates a bad game, so why should this person be punished for that? > There will be less players picking champions they get terrible scores with No, what it means is people will get what you deem a "bad score" and then their next matches will be played with some random champs they don't care about in order to get through the punishment, ruining 10 games in the process Its a pretty terrible idea
I see what you did there and i agree when it comes to them playing even worse on purpose for 10 games. But think, if they get punished on at least 5 of those champs and if he keeps with that behaviour sooner or later he will be in some kind of trouble by maybe almost running out of champs. They will alway be able to play that champ normals, they just wont be able to ruin 10 ranked games with 10 champ. Yes, what if he has all the champ. Well. You cant control everything. You cant teach him how to play. But at least with that champ he wont scre you. And even better. If he actually play those 10 games of punish w other champs , bad on purpose so he can play that champ again. He will get tons of reports for intentionally feending. System cant ignore those many reports on 10 games. Can it?
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Mada (EUW)
: Your analogy is a bit lacking. "I witnessed a murder but I don't care how the system works so I'm trying to give him a ticket for illegal parking but since he didn't even have a car, he got away with murder!"
if the system doesnt arrest murders but people who park cars in the wrong places , then its better than nothing. but if u aprove people who do whatever they want and not getting punished. if you approve anarchy , its up to you. Your logic is like the court in Batman The Dark knigh Returns. "He tried to arrest a murder? Lets punish him, not the murderer" But i will shut my mouth. Before i get punish for doing nothing
Mada (EUW)
: Asking to report someone is offensive and pointless. If you read up on how the report system works, you'll see that there is no difference between 1 report and 9 reports. i didnt speak the whole game. that was the 1st thing i said whole game was to report him. => the only thing you said the whole game was toxic => you had a 100% toxicity rate in this game
> [{quoted}](name=Mada,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=pOZaWB96,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-09-21T12:16:36.726+0000) > > Asking to report someone is offensive and pointless. If you read up on how the report system works, you'll see that there is no difference between 1 report and 9 reports. > > i didnt speak the whole game. that was the 1st thing i said whole game was to report him. > => the only thing you said the whole game was toxic > => you had a 100% toxicity rate in this game Then only one question. Trolling and feeding isnt toxic then. But saying that i will use my right of reporting someone is? Its like not being punished for killing someone, but arresting the guy who said the criminal should be in jail for murder. Doesnt make any sense Doing bad things is not punishable but free speech is. And yes, i already understood that asking report is a "bad" thing
Shiwah (EUW)
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> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=pOZaWB96,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-21T12:15:43.592+0000) > > There is no scenario where breaking the rules is justified, so no, ypu didn't have the right to make report calls, also because they're useless. > Getting trolled is not punishable, acting toxic in retaliation is. > > Trolls are banned, but at much lower success rate than flamers, simply due to the nature of "trolling" which doesn't have specific parameters. So let me see... If i ask someone to report and call him a name 2 or 3 times i am risking a ban, when i did nothing that had a direct negative impact on the other 3 elements of the team. While the guy who affects negatively the whole team is most certainly getting away with it to be free to do it as much as he wants to... I am not saying that flamme shouldn't be punished but shouldn't this kind of negative gameplay should be at least as much punishable as flamme.
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