Baldir (EUNE)
: Champion shards when every champion is owned.
Save 3 of em and fusion it when a new champion apears
Steel (EUW)
: LoL is No Longer Interesting For Me :( (has nothing to do with game state)
1- your goals are too low, my goal is reach challenger so i have game for life. 2- find other game, there are hundreds and hundreds of mmos and docens of MOBAs
: wasting time.
Dont play adc till plat 2 or so, till then is a 3v1 the 90% of time. Or play draven.
: I don't know, but it just has this annoying child feeling to me. Anyway. Riven isn't meant to beat juggernaut/tanks. But you want a buff to be able to beat them? Then who would be able to stand against Riven? She's got a clear weakness. Poppy is an exception though, with sunfire and iceborn she is powerful. Hence why she got nerfs. Did you buy armor pen? In short, tanky > damage.
problem is that she already have a very hard counter wich is hard cc and armor, you can buy cleaver+whisper for kill armored stuff but you need also mercurial because 1 hard cc means ur dead. a melee champion that has to dodge flawlessly or die in half second whiout doing a single hit, yes it must kill anything, tank or no tank. look zed, he can kill anything and do the burst in 2 or less seconds, plus safety in the scape. Riven takes more time to burst while being exposed having to outplay dodging all the time and cant kill tanks? i dont think thats fair.
: I only downvoted for that stupid comment (beg) at the end "put on sale championship riven skin maybe? :))))))))" Riven is perfectly balanced apart from that. She's just fallen out of favour due to the meta.
> [{quoted}](name=UninstalledLife,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=VdZf58kk,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-14T16:29:54.406+0000) > > I only downvoted for that stupid comment (beg) at the end > > "put on sale championship riven skin maybe? :))))))))" > > Riven is perfectly balanced apart from that. She's just fallen out of favour due to the meta. why is stupid ask for that skin? i like it but cant get it so i ask. riven is not easy to play, imho is the hardest mechanically talking chmpion, followed be zed and draven. what i dont see normal is that for example yesterday got a poppy, powned him hard 5/0 and he at 0/5 score, even next to the nerfs, once finished the sunfire/ice i had to run because he was going to kill me 1v1. so for what i outplayed him five times into a kill and snowballed if he gonna just be better than me even sucking just for a stupid item combination?
: riven is considered still one of the most broken champs on the game. you have more of a chance of getting 5 numbers on the lottery before they touch rivens kit.
> [{quoted}](name=MeAndFour Idiots,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=VdZf58kk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-14T14:03:19.942+0000) > > riven is considered still one of the most broken champs on the game. you have more of a chance of getting 5 numbers on the lottery before they touch rivens kit. For that no1 plays her in dia-chall elo, and faker lost the last 5 or 6 games whit her. not cool...
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: Why isnt everyone doing this?
To clarify, the time it takes to do the camp,buy and tp back is exactly the same exp the oponent will get, you reach lane, kill 1 minion and lvlup. we are talking about lvl1 maybe the adc has to be carefull but supp will not have any problem, jungler not gonna get raped be the camps at lvl1 because he gonna start lvl2, so no sustain problem. we are talking about 1st wave, i do this everygame whit riven and the top part works perfectly. and obiusly pick a team comp that can do this, dont let twich alone at lvl1 instead pick draven, no slow ass jungler get lee or shyv. and dont lux mid, do malha or cho or azir or idk who can.
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Leptyx (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=UnlimitedBladeWs,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=nN5EOedQ,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-10T12:27:04.473+0000) > Ik to counterpick, thats not the point. Yes it's the point lol They had 4 AD, i see no reason not to take a tank jungle and stack armor, such as Rammus obvsly, that will benefit you so much late game especially if your team doesn't have any other tank Quinn might have more chance to get kills early than Rammus, but if you only focus on early kills and hope to snowball, you're going nowhere As long as you're convinced you need to do the job alone, at the cost of having bad team compos, you won't reach the league appropriate to your skills
> [{quoted}](name=Leptyx,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=nN5EOedQ,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-10T20:06:57.712+0000) > > Yes it's the point lol > > They had 4 AD, i see no reason not to take a tank jungle and stack armor, such as Rammus obvsly, that will benefit you so much late game especially if your team doesn't have any other tank > Quinn might have more chance to get kills early than Rammus, but if you only focus on early kills and hope to snowball, you're going nowhere > > As long as you're convinced you need to do the job alone, at the cost of having bad team compos, you won't reach the league appropriate to your skills nah if picked rammus can taunt theyr most fed one and tremblor around but at the end im gonna 1v5 anyway, better do it whit a champion that i enjoy. If wanted that kind of play played mundo that can 1v5 easy mode as tank. Counter pick and counterbuild works when the gold is scarce, when every1 has a sh1ton of gold it doesnt have much impact. I understand what you mean, but it just doesnt work here. Is a problem of manpower not powerhouse.
Leptyx (EUW)
: > ok, they pick talon,zed,pantheon and teemo I said Top, Mid, Adc and Supp (random, but still conventional). These 4 don't fit. The purpose of that exercise is to show you the process of choosing a champion wisely and according to both teams, but you're still convinced your purpose is to carry solo. Wrong mindset, redo the exercise or I can't help
yy the talon top, the teemo adc, zed supp and pant mid. Crazy rigth? that was my last team and isnt something weird to happen but the usual. Ik to counterpick, thats not the point. Ur just used to good players that understand how it works.
: Need some tips plat+
Been thinking aboout it and maybe the problem is that i dont know how to force objetives rigth, always have a big lead like 10+/0 , but cant end the game before late arrives and they eat me. whats a good way of force objetive taking? Ive tryed the make a big minion wave tactic, while presuring other lane and it just doesnt work because team doesnt understand and go clear the minions. So no complex stuff, things that they can understand easy.
: Lol. Wait what? it does? XD Where did you find that dreamstat? XD
> [{quoted}](name=Pedromaster,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=nN5EOedQ,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-08T11:53:00.278+0000) > > Lol. Wait what? it does? XD Where did you find that dreamstat? XD Isnt that you? http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/21898183
: I know what you mean. With snowball champs it's easier to carry alone but the problem is that you will not be in that position in every game (if it even reaches 70% it's kinda strange). So you have a better chance with champs that are not really reliant on the state but in comparison lose a lot of "carrypotential". I'm just saying that if you really wanna climb ladder easy you should try another champ but you could also play the sh** out of quinn and climb this way. You would just be required to know a lot (and i mean A LOT) about the champ and his matchups (even things like 2vs1 ganking matchups 2vs2 countergank matchups, etc.) so you just need a lot more games to start seeing sucess in climbing the ladder.
Saw ur profile, waw man 50 wins in a row, that must be some worldwide feat aha. If you have some more jungle tips ill be glad to hear of :p
: Just try them. Trust me they are not bad (just some stats to underline my side ([Quinn winrate Gold+](http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/quinn/jungle)/[Quinn winrate Plat+](http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/quinn/jungle/platinum)/[Quinn winrate Dia+](http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/quinn/jungle/diamond) vs [Elise winrate Gold+](http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/elise/jungle)/[Elise winrate Plat+](http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/elise/jungle/platinum))/[Elise winrate Dia+](http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/elise/jungle/diamond) .) As you see the higher Rank you get the weaker Quinn jungle becomes because of the snowball dependend nature of the champ but Elise for example gets a higher winrate cause she can do damage and be usefull even if behind. But like I said just try them. Testing is better than arguing. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
Yeah thx ill try them again, but dont get me wrong, i can play other champs, just not get out of gold whit them. Snowball now for think my picks later ^^ Anyway i think that found the way of 1v5 almost every game, wish me luck 79arpen.
Leptyx (EUW)
: Let's do an random queue exercise. 1) Name 4 enemy champions (Top, Mid, Adc, Supp). Enemy jungler has not been picked yet. 2) Name your 4 teammates (Top, Mid, Adc, Supp). You are picking jungle. 3) Name the jungler champions you can play
> [{quoted}](name=Leptyx,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=nN5EOedQ,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-03-07T15:03:35.916+0000) > > Let's do an random queue exercise. > > 1) Name 4 enemy champions (Top, Mid, Adc, Supp). Enemy jungler has not been picked yet. > 2) Name your 4 teammates (Top, Mid, Adc, Supp). You are picking jungle. > 3) Name the jungler champions you can play I have more games whit draven and talon than Quinn, and i play alot of different champions, quinn is the one that i can carry harder right now, thats all. the opinions about these champions are next to play them, not missjudging just saying theyr downs and how i dont like them, you can carry whit any but ones are more team dependant and others less. ok, they pick talon,zed,pantheon and teemo. My team picks kayle,vayne,sona and varus. Cause every1 has half brain and there must be 2 trolls at elast, so i pick the most snowbally crap i can find and try to carry, thats it. If manage to get stupidly fed and 1v5 i win if i dont then everyone will die 10 times and ill go from 7/0 to 7/9 , because 5 feds guys do more than 1 you know. Thats how gold elo is, dont try to aply higer lvl games logic, if not ill not need to win alone.
: That's why i suggested the champs that i suggested. On most of them you can build warding smite. So warding doesn't pose much of a problem. Ward places where you think you're enemy jungler will most likely gank (lanes that are snowbally, lanes that are just a little bit behind and with a gank can turn or lanes that already have flash down, etc.) and tell your laner to buy pink ward themself. That's really the only thing you can do to stop ganks on the other side of the map. Cause running around using W is only usefull if you can spot the enemy jungler with it. Also those champs dish out a lot of damage early cause they have %health/missing health damage abilities in their kit have good CC at level 3 + gapclosers so ganks are very good early so you can make a lot happen early. They are just not as super snowbally as quinn but still pretty decent in that regard. Trust me just try it a little in normal first and you will find that they are very good to climb ladder as jungler.
Yes, not saying these junglers are bad but, elise is too slow, shes more toward poking and tanking than controling. lee, well hes lee. vi is rlly good,but once you used R is up to your team, so no. kindred is just weaker than quinn right now. and gragas yes, hes very strong, hes the fotm but will get nerfed and i dont rlly like fotm because are always banned/picked. Ud does betetr than these imo, and still cant control as hard as quinn, dont think is a jungler problem but a tactic problem.
: Need some tips plat+
Ive tryed other junglers, like lee,ww,fidd,kha. All these can do drake at lvl 3 alone before enemy even notice. But the problem is that on this elo no1 wards and while ur stoping theyr bot to snowball theyr top is geting fed. Quinn solves the warding problem because whit W and 3 wards (2 machete and trinket) i can control the map, and also can gank bot and top anytime, be everywhere. Ive tryed the TF way and it just doesnt work, ppl doesnt know tf. played mumu,twich,fiddle,heca,nautilus... all the op TF ones and if ur team is bad ull lose. so im opting for a early game dominance champ and win before mid game, quinn falls hard in late because strong adcs can 1v1 you, then you just split. But if game reached late means that ur team is decent anyway. Im looking for a way of carry bad terrible teams, like if i was playing alone basically. Because it is not normal that i get to gold1 then drop to silver, then again gold1... need consistence, and trowing the wild card of the team helping out isnt working. I want a way to win solo queque solo, is the tl;dr pretty much. I know you will say that is a team game, etc.. but lets be honest, players on gold doesnt play league of legens, because i played higer lvl games and is a total diferent world, where last hit a minion whiout get arrased is already a feat and games are decided on what team has the best teamcomp/teamwork.
: You can't use the same tactic every game, camp lanes that you need to get ahead, or that are easy to gank and try and read your opponent so that you can be in the correct position to counter gank or do an objective like dragon when the enemy jungler shows top
> [{quoted}](name=NotAFunnyBunny,realm=EUW,application-id=00edEA0o,discussion-id=nN5EOedQ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-03-06T20:17:30.631+0000) > > You can't use the same tactic every game, camp lanes that you need to get ahead, or that are easy to gank and try and read your opponent so that you can be in the correct position to counter gank or do an objective like dragon when the enemy jungler shows top Yeah thats the normal way a game goes, but gold is like an alternate dimension and you have to do snseless stuff for win. If i do what ur saying chances are that the countergank becomes a 1v3 because bot lane just ran away, or 1v2 and it was the top. And yeah i can solo drake when the other jungler is dumb enougth for be top but that doesnt work everygame, or simply the enemy bot lane comes and kill me while my bot lane ignore the pings and kill them evil minions.
: Need some tips plat+
Was thinking on sit top and do that side of the jungle while warding that side of enemy jungle whit the machete wards, then camp top all game and kill the other jungler on sigth. But that means give up drake, do you know any better tactic?
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