: > [{quoted}](name=ViqTm,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=iWFLLwOj,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2015-08-20T14:09:29.484+0000) > > I agree about Garen but Mordekaiser is dead... Complain about his q all you want but you deserve to die to that if you forget that you're playing vs a champ with 325 movement speed, no gap closers or cc. I played with a friend today. He as morde and me as thresh. Thresh bring more than enough enganging power and cc to the lane that can keep morde safe and drag people in his range. Morde doesn't need to move closer, some champs move the enemies closer. Needless to say we only lost 1 game because he isn't able to 1v5 (yet). All other games were just so easy and we made people ragequit almost everytime morde managed to get his 3rd strike in. That thing alone chunks as much as a lategame veig ult. That just isn't right.
But that's the thing he's still new so no one knows how he works and underestimates his potential, albeit I hate the new changes. Play as Morde vs. people that actually know his kit, over better yet, naturally toe to toe with it, not neccessarily counter. Play as Quinn, Vayne and for the love of god Kalista and Jinx. You're looking way too much in his strengths without realising his heavy amount of weaknesses. Trust me man, the new Morde fits the theme 10x better, apart from the w I hate so much despite its power, but this 'new' kit is just trash. Not even an opinion, its fact.
: > His w should still be able to be casted without teammates. This mechanic is down right ignorant of Morde's problems. Stacking the damage was something I really enjoyed and hoped for ever since the Nunu-like change. The heal is awesome for lane sustain and team fights and has a great synergy with 'in your face' champions like Leona amd Alistar. Riot has stated that if top morde is struggling they will look at buff, the one at the top of the list is his W, so this change might get changed in 5.17.
Hopefully not just that, he really needs some help. Maybe amp up the base damage by 30 overall so it deals 185 damage at rank 5 and allows the damage from the ad scaling break even much faster in comparison to his old base damage of 250.
: its a team game other team members can bring cc that allows morde and co. to get to their targets stuff like: sivir ult, ashe ult, lulu speed buff and slows, morgana snare and stun, bard ult, THE NEW NAMI ULT (use it to hit morde and the enemies, morde gets 120 ms buff), etc.
With that in mind, the same can be applied vs Morde, simply pick champs that play around his 'all in' tactics... Wait, are we even on the same page? I feel like this is a misunderstanding lol ^^
Steel (EUW)
: Important Tips For Skillful Player
Thats 100% correct but having bad teammates over the course of several games hurts a man... T_T QQ more
: garen and morde
I agree about Garen but Mordekaiser is dead... Complain about his q all you want but you deserve to die to that if you forget that you're playing vs a champ with 325 movement speed, no gap closers or cc.
: My opinion on the 5.16 patch relative to champions/meta
Overall the patch is just a desperate change to the current meta. Its clear Riot wants tanks to end and focus more on bruisers etc. Also, there will probably be more trists and jinxs instead of that god awful, yolo q vayne...
aThrasheR (EUNE)
: Mordekaiser "update"
A bit too much rage induced but all in all yes, Morde's just a terrible, niche champion now. You literally need to be premade duo bot for the rework to even work.
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