: 🎃👻 Volunteer Halloween Quiz 👻🎃
: http://pickem.lolesports.com/share/series/6/user/734659/my-picks Here’s mine Group A: Griffin first, G2 second... G2 rely on fast paced early action and unusual picks, something that outside of Europe is only really matched by Griffin who have a similar style... so it could go either way but slight advantage to Griffin imo. Group B: don’t really know any of the teams in this group besides splyce so can’t comment on their playstyles and strengh... but in this or that funplus Phoenix where mentioned as one of the favourite for the tournament (put as the 3rd strongest team by one of the analyst) so stuck them at first, and splyce second. Group C: while fnatic could manage to pull out some wins SKT and RNG are massive heavy weights... fnatic love playing around bot lane which will be countered by RNG with uzi being better than reckless, and nemesis vs faker is gonna be a area to attack for SKT... hylissang is also inconsistent which costs fnatic games internationally and in a best of one can sink them.... so SKT first, RNG second. Group D: Damwon looks strong, IG are defending world champions, TL have doublelift so I’m obligated to put them low, AHQ has typically always flopped internationally (brought into the hype in 2015 (I think it was that year) where they where hyped as the SKT killers of the tornument and didn’t make it out of groups)... so that one is pretty no brainer for me. Don’t really take pickem too seriously... so long as my predictions for the NA teams come true I’m happy
> [{quoted}](name=swampert919,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=avipreNZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-11T03:04:19.473+0000) > > http://pickem.lolesports.com/share/series/6/user/734659/my-picks Here’s mine > > Group A: Griffin first, G2 second... G2 rely on fast paced early action and unusual picks, something that outside of Europe is only really matched by Griffin who have a similar style... so it could go either way but slight advantage to Griffin imo. > > Group B: don’t really know any of the teams in this group besides splyce so can’t comment on their playstyles and strengh... but in this or that funplus Phoenix where mentioned as one of the favourite for the tournament (put as the 3rd strongest team by one of the analyst) so stuck them at first, and splyce second. > > Group C: while fnatic could manage to pull out some wins SKT and RNG are massive heavy weights... fnatic love playing around bot lane which will be countered by RNG with uzi being better than reckless, and nemesis vs faker is gonna be a area to attack for SKT... hylissang is also inconsistent which costs fnatic games internationally and in a best of one can sink them.... so SKT first, RNG second. > > Group D: Damwon looks strong, IG are defending world champions, TL have doublelift so I’m obligated to put them low, AHQ has typically always flopped internationally (brought into the hype in 2015 (I think it was that year) where they where hyped as the SKT killers of the tornument and didn’t make it out of groups)... so that one is pretty no brainer for me. > > Don’t really take pickem too seriously... so long as my predictions for the NA teams come true I’m happy thanks for your opinnion
Rioter Comments
: question about disgusting behaviors!
to be honest , quitly often junglers take some farm , when they fail ganks ,so they don't get too behind... , aka see cowsep farming lanes , people not flame in high elo for getting farm , if they ain't in lane , the jungle can take farm ,without to get pings from his team mates... because they all know he do his best to value the gold which could be lost by tower killing minions.. , so much more stuffs like that ,sometimes you push and want to take plates ,and your jungler helps your farm + taking some farm , so you can take faster to hit tower and take plates ,again you shouldn't be angry on your jungler in such moments.. It's all about being effective , you can farm his jungle too , when he dosn't pay attention or don't clean his jungle .. , for me every time i go as adc , get sometimes a jungle monster , every time farming enemy jungle so i can take advantage and put enemy jungler behind etc...
Rioter Comments
Agùilar (EUW)
: That really is considered flaming? Lol ill watch it then. Thanks
> [{quoted}](name=Agùilar,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=RsPEMkj5,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-09-12T08:04:57.574+0000) > > That really is considered flaming? Lol ill watch it then. Thanks just don't stress on games ,if people are toxic or negative ,or if they play horrible , just don't stress yourself , sometimes it helps you to win the next game if you don't get stressed , or you can play pasive and just focus on farm and bring advantage of power to yourself then join and hit the strongest enemy down ,much more concentrate if you keep yourself neutre and not follow to be toxic/negative , p.s when people talk ugly to me ,or they play poor , i do my best to play equal as them efforts to pull victory , i did likely 4-5 years pulling incredible plays , 1 vs 5 clutches and much more .., got tired of this riot indifference in apply rules and punishing trollers/griefers.. ,so now i just play with same skill as someone else do , i don't pull myself to play for others and give them wins when they no deserve... , and if they get angry and troll/grief assisting enemy team ,i manually report them tryes , if i feel they refused to help me , or protect in cases they could , or if they leaved an enemy low hp to escape , or runned away when they had to shield/heal , refused to heal/shield etc... If you adc main , just stay away of that role , learn something else , you will thank me later , as i already had 2000 games ranked on 1 hero as adc , and feel like what every support i get is garbage ... , because my knowdledge allows me to do god like plays when i touch supports which leash and play without mistakes... , problem is that most of time i get autofill off role support players , who tend to be toxic + grief +troll =aka roam mid early game , messing with bot lane advantage , lvl xp , tower protection , and even putting me in danger to die , or making more difficult the farming options.
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: Start jungling yourself... There is too many mid mains anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EuuRAL6w,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-12T07:31:21.216+0000) > > Start jungling yourself... There is too many mid mains anyway. unfortunatly not even main mid players no know to position , and help them team , i seen assasins who are too soft , even me as adc have much more balls than them...
: > [{quoted}](name=Vlad To Kill You,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EuuRAL6w,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-12T00:40:06.628+0000) > > An article about every role in part , summed togheter in a whole article , would increase the gameplay and skill performance overall , because people not understand at all , and not even search videos , or riot articles to read... , they just waiting for riot to teach them the game ,as the tutorial is pretty rubish and just learns you how to move , attack , stay away of towers damage etc.. , rubish tutorial =rubish players , my thoughts is that the people have no ideea and no acces to information where they can read about roles and what they have to do ... > > client tab menu "Informations" ,with informations about every role in part could at least removes from confusion ,and could at least remove from troll/grief... > > client tab menu "Informations" describing actions which are considered grief/troll and punished 14 days would be also cool to be added into client + informations about toxicity and how to avoid it , is something necesary as long as toxicity can highly impact games. > > client tab menu "Informations" where you can find articles about performing better in your roles ,such as tips and stuffs which improve your gameplay significantly , i am tired of having poor quality games... Overloading new players with information isn't conducive to effective learning (in other words, what you're suggesting won't help).
> [{quoted}](name=Wandering Mist,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=EuuRAL6w,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-12T07:26:41.950+0000) > > Overloading new players with information isn't conducive to effective learning (in other words, what you're suggesting won't help). is like an article they can acces free and easy if they want to read and look for informations, something like ,while you que for game and wait to find game ,you can read from time to time something... there are lacks of skilled players ,most of people who play right now gold IV +++ , not deserve to be gold , back in my times it were much more harder to advance and be a gold player ,now feel like every id124t can pull to gold without to know the game ,just based on luck
: Thanks for your detailed response. If I get to counterpick I'll do it, and if I see an enemy kayle I'll start taking ghost! That sounds like a great option since sometimes my enemy does escape on low hp due to my low MS. I can lane as Illaoi quite decently, do you think she's a good pick in these situations? I've wanted to try Vlad for a while but I'm stubbornly waiting for his champ shard, perhaps I'll have to give in and buy him at full price :P
> [{quoted}](name=Helical Twist,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=oAEeeh7n,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-12T00:36:39.711+0000) > > Thanks for your detailed response. If I get to counterpick I'll do it, and if I see an enemy kayle I'll start taking ghost! That sounds like a great option since sometimes my enemy does escape on low hp due to my low MS. I can lane as Illaoi quite decently, do you think she's a good pick in these situations? > > I've wanted to try Vlad for a while but I'm stubbornly waiting for his champ shard, perhaps I'll have to give in and buy him at full price :P https://lolcounter.com/champions/nasus there you can find informations about how to counter it ,and who he is strong against ,and who counters him + you can find for any heroes counter pick. Tips vs nasus : General Counter Tips - Don't let him free farm, his Q will get stronger in late game. - Avoid standing in his Spirit fire as it will shred your armor. - Try to avoid fighting him while his ultimate is active, unless you have the clear advantage. - It's helpful to take cleanse or buy a Quicksilver Sash to get rid of his Wither as an AD Carry
: Junglers and their issues
An article about every role in part , summed togheter in a whole article , would increase the gameplay and skill performance overall , because people not understand at all , and not even search videos , or riot articles to read... , they just waiting for riot to teach them the game ,as the tutorial is pretty rubish and just learns you how to move , attack , stay away of towers damage etc.. , rubish tutorial =rubish players , my thoughts is that the people have no ideea and no acces to information where they can read about roles and what they have to do ... client tab menu "Informations" ,with informations about every role in part could at least removes from confusion ,and could at least remove from troll/grief... client tab menu "Informations" describing actions which are considered grief/troll and punished 14 days would be also cool to be added into client + informations about toxicity and how to avoid it , is something necesary as long as toxicity can highly impact games. client tab menu "Informations" where you can find articles about performing better in your roles ,such as tips and stuffs which improve your gameplay significantly , i am tired of having poor quality games...
: Una solución ya por favor!!!
i not even speak spanish ,but i know this guy talks about mmr , trollers, afk,flamers all the time he plays .. , something like that.. Something about griefers/trollers not getting banned ,and that nothing happens to them...
isdan (EUW)
: my friend is a bad adc
you can never be confident in yourself that you are the best and that you don't do mistakes... , still if you feel that he annoys you with invites to play ,say that you are playing alone because of missleading between you and him regarding ranked games or what ever you play there... , so he will know that you ain't opened to play games and be blamed or talk about stuffs like that , not long time ago , had such a friend and i got angry enought that he is now history so , is better to don't keep to play with it ,if you still want to be friends... , just play ocasionally.
: What to do when I'm losing lane to scaling champs like Nasus?
maybe change pick , nasus can't fight vs champions which poke from distance that good , jayce for exemple i think could handle really good him , but not sure... . Kayle is extremly weak early game you just need to trick catch it with a hero who stunns... , if you morde best probably would be ghost on summoner spells. Another trick which can makes you win time , is to don't die to them early ... ,then if they get advantage they can punish you much more harder ,recall when low hp ... etc.. , there are champions who are tanky and can deal with nasus , even vladimir can dodge + reheal , or there is riven ... who can move a lot ,now depends and of your skill level and the way you performing with champions which can be hard to master. Easiest solution would be to ban nasus, you have the ban option in order to ban what heroes you can't handle.
: Noone cares, but I'm quitting
true part about skill , i play games where i realise i could win them easy ,and that my enemy ain't that good to deserve the win ,unfortunatly sometimes smurfers in enemy team give wins to people no deserve only because my team is weak and extremly poor in plays , i one love to have the challenge to play good ,but likely dosn't feel okey to be that just in my part , and feel like the most of the teams i get don't pull to do them best ,they play for co presence , having poor gameplays and not even excuse themself for the trash plays... , neither feel like i should be proud of someone telling me congrats for having 7 0 score and they having garbage score , because then i really feel like i am used of that shitty guy who gets win on my back and just tell me stuffs i already heard 1000 times... or more ... , the point is that people not even care when they play bad , so i stoped to care too how do i play , as part of the fact that's the grief/troll attitude which riot allows inside this game. If i do reports nothing happen , and the reason the game turned into this state is because of riot indifference in combating this at the right moment , now everyone do that because is more simple than stressing yourself to win games ,and to play and win games which could be easy among people who no deserve to be in this game or to play ranked.. , i know everyone isn't perfect ,but at least i did my best when i was noob , i was only once bronze IV when i started season 3 and it was likely because of my lack of experience on farming/positioning/objectives and much more , which i learned every time i got into a new game , i am looking right now into ranked lists and see people repeating over and over again mistakes ,is incredibly feel too stupid.
: Coach
hey what role do you play ??
Rioter Comments
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: What should have been said? "I'm so sorry, you clearly weren't breaking the rules hard enough for permanent ban. That is so unfair."
> [{quoted}](name=KerberosFi,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T16:26:15.408+0000) > > What should have been said? "I'm so sorry, you clearly weren't breaking the rules hard enough for permanent ban. That is so unfair." the whole topic is about not my permanent ban ,is about ip ban on using support line assistance ,you need to rest a bit and come back with some more energy to actually understand what i pointed here in this topic ,starting from the reason i got ip banned finishing with the illegal action by riot agent in suspending all my accounts which i connect on same ip , because this clearly looks like is a fault from them side ,and it shouldn't be like that...
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: > When you create an account with us, we require you to select a unique username and password (collectively, your “Login Credentials”), which you’ll use each time you access the Game. You can’t share your account or Login Credentials with anyone. You can’t sell, transfer or **allow any other person to access your account or Login Credentials, or offer to do so.** You’re entirely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your Login Credentials. Please notify us immediately if you become aware of any breach of security, including any loss, theft or unauthorized disclosure of your Login Credentials. Sorry, I'm afraid your friend's account might be gone too.
> [{quoted}](name=KerberosFi,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T16:21:30.569+0000) > > Sorry, I'm afraid your friend's account might be gone too. this topic is about support permanent ban not in-game ban dude , you out of subject???
: between 14 days ban and the step to permanent bans [Read it will 100% worth]
reason riot ignores that , and in fact is because them own system is builded to forget your positive actions and amount of time you run positive , they also don't consider important if you share after a permanent ban highly honorable behaviour ,further more , when you talk about punishments with them , they seems to forget the positive parts from players ,and focus over just negative parts , even if some of them are slightly negative ,for any form of negativity they raise punishments, the problem is that this evolveed deeper and deeper ,and the toxicity level look like impossible to make it lower if you play this game daily and meet more and less frequently grief/troll behaviour , or someone who adress you like you are the problem.
: I don't try to insult you. I just try to find new ways of making you understand that the ban was deserved. Half of the community + people who work at the Support try to make you understand this, but you keep refusing. If the guys who represent the game tell you that what you did was wrong and 100 random people agree with them then maybe they know better. > i feel like you clearly not in the position to say who deserve what Yes I do. As long as I know the rules and have 3 years experience on this boards, I say that I know who deserve to be punished and who don't. And this is just an opinion. Is your choice if you agree or disagree with me, but I have any right to type everything I want. > As you should watch your buisiness and talk on subjects you should show your opinnion I showed my own opinion referring to the subject. You made a post about nerfing a champion or about a ban you got? As a proof my answer was on the subject I will take something at the beginning of the post. What you said:"i haven't understood how impactful were my actions on the games they considered toxic" Now read my answer.
> [{quoted}](name=TheToysTracker,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T15:10:42.166+0000) > > I don't try to insult you. I just try to find new ways of making you understand that the ban was deserved. Half of the community + people who work at the Support try to make you understand this, but you keep refusing. > > If the guys who represent the game tell you that what you did was wrong and 100 random people agree with them then maybe they know better. > > Yes I do. As long as I know the rules and have 3 years experience on this boards, I say that I know who deserve to be punished and who don't. > And this is just an opinion. Is your choice if you agree or disagree with me, but I have any right to type everything I want. > > I showed my own opinion referring to the subject. You made a post about nerfing a champion or about a bad you got? > > As a proof my answer was on the subject I will take something at the beginning of the post. > What you said:"i haven't understood how impactful were my actions on the games they considered toxic" > Now read my answer. your opinnion is not necesarry to be toxic ,and throwed there to make others feel bad ... , half of the community ? + people from support ,you actually not understand that most of support agents are just following protocols and static repeatly answers , they not even read tickets , and i can proof cases where they didn't read and answered totally out of subject , extending the ticket with another 2-3 days of waiting , let's be honest that the part of support team takes them salary and not even care if they do a great job and if they acted totally right.. , further more the community which builded here not understand clearly what means to pass throught the punishment system , to stay every punishment 2-3 months chill/cool , and after to run further punishments ,they also not understand that if you toxic 3 games or how many are necesary for riot to pursuit a new punishment ,after 90 days passed (aka 3 months ) into a next level punishment ,without to decrease after a time considering high amount of time the player stayed cool chill between punishment ,and totally ignore in fact that 3 months , with 2months , or 1 month from a punishment to another one , mathers ,and actually every day you stay positive and chill should matter , as in fact matters the days and games your behaviour run to be toxic , which means that clearly Riot and your other friends from community can't understand who deserve a 14 days ban /a permanent ban or any further punishment as long as you don't understand the entire how the punishment system work ,and that chances for you to claim someone been negative/toxic after 3 months since his last punishment , and place him a higher punishment sounds extremly broken ,as that guy had his moment he couldn't handle anymore to be totally cool/chill/calm but that dosn't mean he didn't wanted to progress and have honor lvl 2 + and gain hextech rewards ,and play in silent this game . If you don't mind to read this then , you will not mind to actually understand that a guy who is every 3 months angry , can't worth 140 years ban , neither could harm into this game as much as riot makes you think , "toxic players " do... , if someone gets banned in 1 month , or less than 1 month , you can call him toxic ,and a well deserved punishment ,but someone who got banned among high amount of times he been cool/chill you can't call him a toxic person , neither a toxic player , because behind that player terms , lands a person , so tehnical speaking you making other persons to think about themself that they are the one in this whole equation who should eat all of these ,and accept they been toxic 1 day out of 91...
Rioter Comments
: > First of all , it all started when i got permanent banned for low toxicity Good that you started with this. You saved me for reading the rest of the post. The ban is **deserved**.
> [{quoted}](name=TheToysTracker,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-08T14:32:18.095+0000) > > Good that you started with this. You saved me for reading the rest of the post. > The ban is **deserved**. you have no right to say that , and i clearly don't feel the need to see your message , you coulded abtain of showing your greed over the fact that i got banned 140 years considering my actions , and chat logs, and i feel like you clearly not in the position to say who deserve what... As you should watch your buisiness and talk on subjects you should show your opinnion , here i haven't ask for your toxic opinnion , if i deserve it or not is my buisness not yours , and clearly my new account who is lv 122 and have almost lv 4 proofs , i haven't deserved ,and your form of insult not belongs here ,and is not needed here according to this topic is the discussion about.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: your friend's account got punished because he let someone else on it, not because of your imaginary ip ban
> [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-08T14:21:46.328+0000) > > your friend's account got punished because he let someone else on it, not because of your imaginary ip ban no he haven't , i tested accounts who i never used on support assistance , and they banned without reason and log me out of them... , on using support line assistance , not in-game , tehnical speaking that's because i connected on my wi-fi , proof is that i log on mobile data which is a different ip once i used hot spot and logged over my laptop using wi-fi into connecting account over support ,the one run without problems i log into my account then , the next time i tryed ,using my regular wi-fi connection from provider , i got my account logged out ... , wasn't sure i am ip banned , so i ask one friend to tehnical help me ,to see if i can accest support assistance from his account , as i haven't understood why i can't log into a new account support assistance being lv 14 on EUW , so basically what i tryed to do it was to last time log into support and explain to that guy that they asked for my account credentials ,and that i just asked and talked about punishments in general.
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: And? Account sharing is punishable offense.
> [{quoted}](name=KerberosFi,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T14:17:45.068+0000) > > And? Account sharing is punishable offense. account sharing , i wanted to test if i am ip banned , so tehnical that's not illegal , as long as i haven't understand why one account i never writed tickets on support got banned , then i log into someone else account to check if i am ip banned ... or something ,and clearly understood then that i am ip banned , but the fact is weird is that i not even got notified about that and neither informed of being banned on my ip ,that sounds like an abuse. Think about the fact that tyler1 got banned over accounts for not doing anything wrong , so bascially i get banned over my support accounts for not even breaking ToS , and which means that this is an illegal ban as i haven't even done anything illegal prior the ban hammer ,for which to deserve the permanent ban ip from using support line assistance.
KerberosFi (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Vlad To Kill You,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-09-08T13:23:37.348+0000) > The rules broken here , are the fact i haven't been informed of this form of ip ban on connecting support, i haven't insult anyone ,so this ip ban tehnical is illegal , because i haven't spam them , only talked about punishments . Infact, it is completely within [TOS](https://eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse#section2) that they may terminate your accounts, acting reasonably, if it is their best interest. And in this case it may very well have been to stop you from spamming their support with reguests that seem to be solved. Following sentence: > If your account is terminated for one of the reasons referred to in clause 2.1, you’ll no longer have access to it, including any of the associated data or content (e.g., champions, skins, Riot Points, etc.). Where we terminate for a legitimate reason, for example where you have breached this Agreement, you’ll not be entitled to any refunds and we’ll have no liability to you.** We also reserve the right to terminate any other accounts you may have created, as well as your access to any other Riot Services (also without any refunds or liability to you)**. And while you may claim you haven't spammed but only talked about punishments, what do we know? In any case, their TOS is quite proof, nothing illegal has happened in any case.
> [{quoted}](name=KerberosFi,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-09-08T14:05:26.504+0000) > > Infact, it is completely within [TOS](https://eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse#section2) that they may terminate your accounts, acting reasonably, if it is their best interest. And in this case it may very well have been to stop you from spamming their support with reguests that seem to be solved. Following sentence: > > And while you may claim you haven't spammed but only talked about punishments, what do we know? In any case, their TOS is quite proof, nothing illegal has happened in any case. well i haven't spammed them ,only talked about punishments ,further more in the last ticket they asked for my name of account ,as they haven't seen in the whole ticket where i asked and talked about punishments in general , how i spam people now , if 100000 people write tickets about this subject every day , how do i already spam them ??? , if everyone have questions ,and them work is stupidly slow , and most of the times they not even read the tickets they answer , so i am not the black sheep here , cause i tryed to achieve more much informations , anyway is them account or mine , who have the right and interest to inform himself , sounds like i do , and i wanted to be 1000% sure of what they considered toxic into my behaviour and further more to proof myself why there 140 years bans would sound stupid considering my actions . In fact what i done wouldn't be considered passible of permanent bans , and clearly they say that they will at slightest form of toxicity ban people permanent after them 14 days ban period expire , but the point is , i have been 3 months between my 14 days ban expiration and the last punishment they issued , which is about 90 days with aproximation , fact what means that i am not a highly toxic person , and that i shouldn't be banned for slightest negative thingh into my behaviour , further more , i can explain you why i sustain this , think about the fact that after a time your account level of punishments reset , i had no time to reach that time ,because is an extreamly heavy process , so basically i don't get graduate lower toxiciy level as the time pass ,in fact my level of toxicity stay sames ,even if i act positive , i don't speak now about honor level ... , i speak about my level of toxicity ,which after such an amount of time should decrease tehnical , every time i don't flame and i don't act negative should sum itself and somehow reduce from my toxicity level. As in fact after every punishment there was a desire to be less toxic and much more honorable , i stayed quitly long amounts of time without to be toxic , got back to lv 2 ,but further more when i lost again my angryness from different reasons , and not swearing others , as i haven't swear anyone , i don't care if you believe me or not , i run into a new punishment level , and that 2 months or 3 which took me to touch honor lv 2 got ignored ,as the time passed that happened again and again , basically the time i tryed to be chill/calm and not be toxic got ignored , and not even is countered as a form of decreasing my punishment level ,which in facts this game just push to punish you ,and never gives back into lowering your level of toxicity for the days you stayed cool/chill and haven't run into toxic behaviour , that been sayd i can proof you in fact that i had over about 7 months of clean behaviour , and just over 10 days of toxic behaviour , when i eventually broke the rules and got punished , how that collapse with the fact that you get banned permanent 140 years ... , if in fact you get banned only when you broke rules and those are limited amount of times for some people ,where they just crack and can't handle it anymore and break somehow the ToS rules regarding how they should behave in-game.
: Your "support acount" is your email you are banned on all account on that email. You get banned on all acount associated with same email.
> [{quoted}](name=Kitty Girl,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T13:54:51.415+0000) > > Your "support acount" is your email you are banned on all account on that email. > You get banned on all acount associated with same email. actually , i log into a friend account , and the account is on his e-mail ,and he got banned too ,so please explain me more further then if that's not ip ban... , and is tehnical sounds stupid to ip ban someone for even my actions of there.
: > [{quoted}](name=Vlad To Kill You,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-08T13:07:16.885+0000) > > First of all , it all started when i got permanent banned for low toxicity , with the intention to reduce others behaviour when trolling/griefing , still i had to pay for that https://en.news-front.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Obama-Laugh.jpg
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-08T13:28:06.213+0000) > > https://en.news-front.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Obama-Laugh.jpg sounds funny to be trolled guess ,you of yourself have no problem to be trolled when you start games good ?? , probably you not even play as main adc to understand why my actions were to calm down someone who autofill ,and my intentions into making him to play his own role of support and not flame me and neither grief/troll , he stoped to flame me as i ignored him , so basically in my opinnion he want somehow to revenge for my indifference in front of his flame , throught trolling/griefing rest of the game by not playing according to support role gameplay as it should be ... and who he should actually protect. (still in fact that guy probably got banned after 7-8 months for his grief behaviour after i manually report ,until then riot never been concerned to rise punishments over him).
: > they refused to adress my case and to talk to me , as they hurry up to close the case and further more ,leave me no options to discuss about it ,as every ticket about that subject was tehnical closed in a rude way ... , sometimes without answers , or names of the agents who closed it , and much more... You are toxic u get ban. There's no excuse to be toxic. No one cares who started and why. They won't unban you. And have no reason to talk with you. >they wanted to close it quickly so they can't reverse the ban read it untill you understand what mean PERMANENT BAN. If you were toxic and you said you were, they won't unban you, they even can't do that. > i think they want to pursuit the permanent ban because of my past punishments You have 2 chat restrictions and then you have 14 day ban and last punishment is permanent. And when you recive 14 day you are informed that ANY steping out of line is gona be punished by permanent ban. >as is explained into ToS , is somehow illegal from the inbounded rules there are in ToS , as in fact i haven't done anything illegal to be ip banned from using support line assistance!!!!. Oh you poor soul. Don't even know that Support page have it's own set of rules? They didn't broke ToS giving you ban on Support page. You broke them by spaming them. And you got banned.
> [{quoted}](name=mikrogane2305,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-08T13:33:02.665+0000) > > You are toxic u get ban. There's no excuse to be toxic. No one cares who started and why. > They won't unban you. And have no reason to talk with you. > > > read it untill you understand what mean PERMANENT BAN. If you were toxic and you said you were, they won't unban you, they even can't do that. > > You have 2 chat restrictions and then you have 14 day ban and last punishment is permanent. And when you recive 14 day you are informed that ANY steping out of line is gona be punished by permanent ban. > > Oh you poor soul. Don't even know that Support page have it's own set of rules? > They didn't broke ToS giving you ban on Support page. You broke them by spaming them. And you got banned. the rules of there , haven't been broke ,if you at least read the ticket you would understand how the problem stays ,and further more you would understand why i had confidence , i just talked about punishments in general ,and someone wanted to help me into explaining the case much more well ,but another person came in and just ban hammer me ,then ip ban me , so that dosn't sound like a proper way to action with your customers , does it look like ?
: Ip ban is a joke and i doubt riot do that, are you sure isnt your e-mail who is banned? Cause Ip ban are easy to bypass
> [{quoted}](name=Kitty Girl,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Gxn4B8gK,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-08T13:31:54.469+0000) > > Ip ban is a joke and i doubt riot do that, are you sure isnt your e-mail who is banned? > Cause Ip ban are easy to bypass 900000% sure , because i tested different connections when i log into accounts who i haven't log into yet... , basically this dosn't sound cool , and dosn't sound anyway legal according to my actions and what i done. http://prntscr.com/p3dhmp , this is last them ticket answer ,this is from my e-mail , as i can't even acces my past tickest ,that serious it is , and it dosn't sound healthy in my opinnion , to have no proofs to defend yourself than the e-mails if you find them over your e-mail.
: >2.1. How can my account be suspended or terminated? (If you break the rules, Demacian Justice will be visited upon your account!) >Three different people/entities can suspend or terminate your account: > >2.1.1. You. You may terminate or suspend your account at any time by contacting us at support@riotgames.com. > >2.1.2. Us.We may terminate or suspend your account if we determine, in our sole discretion, that: > >(a) you have violated any part of this Agreement; > >(b) we have stopped offering the Riot Services in your region; or > >(c) doing so would be in the best interests of our community, the Riot Services, or the rights of a third party. AND >5.1. Can I troll, flame, threaten or harass people while using the Riot Services? (No. If you do, you might get banned.) https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse low toxicity still toxicity so you break 2.1.2 a. So Riot can ban you.
there is in-game low toxicity ... from my chat logs where i got permanent banned over my account in-game , i haven't been toxic while i talked to riot agents about my cases ,what would be the point to show in fact that there was low toxicity in my chat logs and step into support line assistance to swear them ... , so i have tehnical now over 5 accounts banned on support line assistance ,from all this stupid situation , and i doubt riot will ever help me with this case. Secondly i got issue now that i have permanent ban over my ip from using support assistance services , as this is clearly a form of abuse and tehnical dosn't sound neither healthy ,further more ,dosn't looks like it opens me further more barrier to report someone who been disruptive and haven't been punished my riot justice system ,while they clearly broke the ToS and ruin my games... , i can't even ask anything , if i have tehnical issues with my account also i can't do anything to receive help .!!!!
: So let me get this straight. You got perma-banned on your account and you don't know why. You send support tickets to Riot asking for clarification and they either don't respond or give you the answers you want. You then send more tickets at which point they close your case and IP banning you. Have I got that right so far? If so, what part of the ToS have they broken?
well tehnical ,last time when i talked , i talked about punishments ,in general , after a long time talking and talking , an agent from them teams on support who answer tickets , asked me to write my account name , and in-game name so he can look about it , and i tehnical explained what just happened and the fact people keep close my tickets when i write and ask for that etc.. , so he ask me for those ,to see if he can check to see what happened ... , further more after i writed that name+ ingame name in the reply to the current ticket ,another agent steped in , told me same storry about my case being closed ,and further tickets being closed as soon as issued , and he also banned my account , and then he pursuit a ban over my ip into connecting further more on support assistance line from any account i would actually try to connect. The rules broken here , are the fact i haven't been informed of this form of ip ban on connecting support, i haven't insult anyone ,so this ip ban tehnical is illegal , because i haven't spam them , only talked about punishments . So how that sound , does it sound like riot respect rules now ?? , does it sound like it's totally health ?? , considering i meet hundreds of players who are trolling/griefing and i notice every one of them ,and now i can't procced to manually report so they can get punished ,further more , if i want to ask questions or to do something i have to use or vpn to connect a new created account over support line assistance , or to use mobile data wi-fi hotspot , does it sound like i should be forced to do this , considering hundreds of cases of grief/troll submited over support assistance ... , where i detected hundreds of passive trollers behaviour more and less obvious.
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Voldymort (EUNE)
: >you want to see that i can ban your account on support , if you have some free time and want to test it , here is my skype:raresx2 , so you can figure out that i have no reason to lie. https://miro.medium.com/max/1040/1*8xraf6eyaXh-myNXOXkqLA.jpeg >account sharing is reffering only in cases someone broke rules over your account ,expecially that account sharing rule is only to don't limit the owners of accounts responsability among the situations they give to others to play ,so basically if you share you account and he cheat or swear/troll/grief inside ranked games or normal games , they are covered by rules and they can keep the accounts banned. no, dude account sharing reffers to any type of sharing. wether the person who has your account breaks the rules or not by flaming or inting or hacking or what have you is **_IRRELEVANT_** the only case of account sharing that might be allowed is client sharing that is to say, your bro logged in but stayed in the client without clicking on "play". tho i suggest you don't quote me on that one >but tehnical speaking the ip ban over accesing support assistance , i take it as a form of abuse again. riot doesn't do ip bans >since i have played this game of 8 years , and have a very old account which i play of long time ,and where i am lv 122 and honor lv 4 almost .. . all of those are irrelevant if you break the rules, riot doesn't care about honor level, account age, summoner level, mastery score on Irelia, number of skins for Teemo or wallet investment. we all get the same rules to abide by my account is older than yours btw. you can stop flexing now >So explain me in such a situation what are my chances then for riot company to actually make light here in this case if they no frequent them own board site.. can you try that again in english?
riot do ip bans ... , they banned my ip , you tell me i am speaking without knowdledge ,when i tested it using mobile data connection wi-fi hotspot , and then i used my home internet connection and bum the account been log out when i tryed to entry it , so basically don't even step to defend a company with lies... , they pursuit the ban on my ip ,and this dosn't sound healthy , neither a ToS health solution ,because my others account haven't broke ToS in any forms , and further more this whole ip ban is an illegal action by Riot games ,broking them own rules they created and writed... , which means in teory i am banned as tyler1 ,even if i did nothing over my support assistance accounts , not in-game, but still relevant to this. All i talk here is not about money or investment ,about how someone should treat you when you talk each other ,as they don't give a f1241 on how much money i put in , i don't give a f1241 that they are a multi billionar company , and i ask them to show me respect , i don't ask much , i sayd what i sayd there only to proof the fact that in fact i play this game of long time ,so actually there should be at least a form of respect for that... , and actually further more ,them agents from this company of billions of dolars should understand that they are payed to work in it , not to shit over others... , so DEAR RIOT SET YOUR EMPLOYERS TO WORK RIGHT AND WITH RESPECT WHEN ADDRESING YOUR CUSTOMERS NO MATHER OF THEM WALLET INVESTMENTS. There is no chance for me to proof the fact riot action in a way they shouldn't ... , until i don't take this over reddit ..
: > [{quoted}](name=Vertinhol,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7PU7xg1o,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-09-06T17:35:40.690+0000) > > RIOT is like a dictator, instead of fixing the causes of the problems she directly cut off the head of the consequences, it's very normal for being toxic because there is some dude messing with your patience, will make you lose time and LP and he will make you feel angry, this dude is completely protected by RIOT, his account will remain active, he will continue to ruin the game and he won't feel a thing about it. > > Trust me on this, I tried so many times in this forum to contribute against this kind of behavior, and nether the community (almost everyone 96%) or the moderators will try to think or discuss properly about what you're saying, I really hope someday to cook an egg on a melting RIOT server to enjoy the beauty of the world. Yeah, right. Wishing a car accident for a random stranger you are playing a videogame with because he stole 2 cs from you is SO normal. And RioT was definetely scheming with that guy to trap you into a permaban and prevent you from climb to challenjour, like you are OBVIOUSLY worth of! {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
you haven't evolve yet from an egg , into a chicken .. . Actually , he reffers to the fact that not everyone who flames deserve permanent ban ,but when you think about hundreds of cases of toxic players who grief/troll hundreds of games breaking same ToS and not getting 14 days ban or permanent ban , then you start to question , who is the guy who should receive permanent ban ??? , the guy who says a low negatvie thingh , because nowadays you punished with stages for almost anything , even if you "threat" a troller/griefer who actually grief and troll your game to stop as there are strong punishments against that behaviour ,the point is that the guy of himself dosn't stop as he is too confident riot will never detect and ban or punish him , so as far as i get banned for chat low toxicity ,then i don't see why riot should give flamers permanent bans while they have no powers to detect the source of all this situation ,and the reason someone else became toxic or started to be negative even a little bit. Also not everyone tells others to kill 25]45self , because no one is a 10 years boy to do that ... , who ever sayd such stuffs clearly not have a mature mind , neither can see himself stupidly talking over internet in a video game in 2019 ... ,where actually everyone menthality should limit any possible thoughts or negativity which hits them ,as the 99% of the all internet mutiplayer games have toxicity , let's be honest here , so everyone learned to deal with the fact is not actually a person next to you , which you could do anything or would have any ideea about your life ,or a person who knows you and hurth your ego . About people who cry about 2 creeps they probably a bit too much deep in LCS esports and think themself gods... , as well as those people who usually comment to others that they lost 2 creeps or something similar . He is right for what he says upper , if i would speak with you via skype , i would actually be able to proof you how someone can troll/grief beyond the infinit edge sword cost and never get banned , the toxicit evolveed so much that you clearly can't anymore understand who troll and who grief and who plays weak and who plays as he want , or who plays without the interest to win ,and much more... Your confidence into being toxic to others ideas when they clearly show the problems and light the huge problems is the reason , people who got permanent banned now ,troll/grief without limits and riot can't even handle to check hundreds and millions of cases of such activity , beyond that is even extremly hard and heavy work to actually be able to detect someone who troll grief , and even if you ban it , is again hard to keep the account banned or to unbann it because as i sayd the line between bad plays and troll/grief is extremly small , and the posibility for riot to ever find a troller/grief would be impossible throught any system implemented , until it's not about human eye and invoveed a whole community ,but unfortunatly they love trollers /griefers since the support assistance services is ip banned for me , for trying to expose all of this.
: unfairly perma banned?
you will not get unbanned ,if you get i ticket myself riot games and ask them then to unbann my account in my case too ,cause the low toxicity is punished , anything after 14 days ban if breaks terms of condition can raise permanent ban , according to riot ,this is extremly fairplay ,and really rise many chances since you touched 14 days ban to reform ,if you consider an option to be absolutly clean ,having problems of behaviour in past ,to stay further more 8-9 months ,so basically , yeah , i consider from my side that's not likely to encourage you to be a better person , because once you have a fresh start , you are less stressing about your behaviour ,as long as you have nothing to lose ... , until probably you touch again the 14 day ban and then you start to consider if you can change or not.. Sincerly , i think Riot likes to laught of them community ,when is quitly obvious ,that chances for someone to reform throught the punishment system are extremly low , and the chances to piss out community and make people more angry/loss them interest in playing good , or chances to make them to increase the toxicitiy of them beahaviour is even higher than what riot actually sayd they try to do , but hey ,we have this system and as long as everyone suffer ,thinghs have to stay like that . I never seen a much more lazy company than this one ,and no offence , the all 3 sides loss , the game developers lose community good players who had interest to play good and pasion , and dedication ,they also lose them players confidence about them sells and accounts content etc.. . The 2 nd part from this equation , is the players who get punished permanent and loss lot's of progress gained among time , time where they been honorable and sometimes unhonorable ,and more than this , they lose time to ,buy back what they lost , if they eventually buy thinghs or they not even bother. Th3 3 rd part and which i consider most important is the normal players , i take myself as an exemple , i played daily adc , and this game just fills your games with toxic behaviour without limits , being adc main had to experiment hundreds of toxic autofill supports from toxicit adressed into chat , to team toxicity due to lack of performance from supports without experience + the fact some of them were likely troll/grief or even did that.. , so basically , the normal players keep suffer the others toxic beahviuor , while riot actually don't seems to have tihis situation under control ,or to get it into normal parametres ,which in fact provs the actually huge problem riot don't want to rise ,and to admit that the toxicity exceded the parameters bans barrier , and people become much more cleaver and finded new ways of being toxic without getting punished once they get angry or feels like the game ain't worth attention. As long as this game keeps evolvee in that direction , and they ignore this , is more than clearly just a matter of time since people will actually bring this in powerful revolution , and they will make riot to make steps into this direction in improving the gameplay among changing and improving system of punishments. Until then , i still no care about this game ,because last time when i care , and i meet a troller/griefer autofill support , still i had to pay with my progress and account , on the fact i tryed to convience someone to don't troll/grief as there are pretty strong punishments for that , but the problem is riot considered that as threat and form of neagativity , i am the negative player , because i haven't leaved riot community players to ruin games and to be toxic , i must let them to be toxic/grief/troll so they can be banned by riot , if they ever get detected for them toxicity , cause that's and nowadays is questionable , if a guy who grief hard as support player no get banned after 8-9 months since i got permanent ban that's likely riot likes to ignore people who grief/troll and make you loss games.. .
Voldymort (EUNE)
: i don't know from whence you got the ideea of "ip ban" lodged in your head but riot doesn't nor have they ever done ip bans because ips are easy to change with a second hand router. >my friend account got support assistance suspended ,because he offered me acces to write support about the last situation happened , and i banned his account , great workers in riot company . account sharing is something you can get banned over. you don't even need to bother with tickets for that information. it's all in the FAQ >Also not a single Rioter cares about this thread , so much interest in doing your job corectly Riot. riot doesn't frequent the boards on the regular. it is known
you want to see that i can ban your account on support , if you have some free time and want to test it , here is my skype:raresx2 , so you can figure out that i have no reason to lie. account sharing is reffering only in cases someone broke rules over your account ,expecially that account sharing rule is only to don't limit the owners of accounts responsability among the situations they give to others to play ,so basically if you share you account and he cheat or swear/troll/grief inside ranked games or normal games , they are covered by rules and they can keep the accounts banned. Specifical here the accoun't sharing isn't a case but tehnical speaking the ip ban over accesing support assistance , i take it as a form of abuse since i have played this game of 8 years , and have a very old account which i play of long time ,and where i am lv 122 and honor lv 4 almost .. . So explain me in such a situation what are my chances then for riot company to actually make light here in this case if they no frequent them own board site..
Eumel2 (EUW)
: [Feature Request] 3 similar Skin Shards = That Skin Permanent
actually i would more likely to hear something more helpful like , if you get a random permanent skin and you no own the champion ,that means you can disenchange ,but the value is way undervalue , considering the price you would have to pay to unlock skins ... Sometimes it happens that i reroll skins and i get a random permanent skin ,and if i would disenchant i would get lower value than actually how much i would save from disenchanting directly the shards... Since then i stoped from rolling anything else than 520 rp skins.. , and in my opinnion if you reroll more expensive skins you should get greater chances to gain something cool ,not vintage vault skins.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: if the support refuses to talk to you that means you have a consistently shitty attitude when talking to them >so i do consider that's something pushed to block my freedom of speach freedom of speech doesn't mean what you think it means. freedom of speech means you can say whatever you want and the government can'tdo jack. but private companies like riot who are not affiliated with the government have the right to prevent future contact if they determine your attitude is something they won't tolerate on their time. freedom of speech =/= freedom of consequences. if you go to a bar and start throwing the n-word around willy nilly, the guards throwing you out doesn't cancel your freedom of speech.
this is a game , not a real life ,you suffer from not making diference between the game and real life ?? , The actually problem which is quitly important in my opinnion as the ToS dosn't cover this endorse behaviour from riot agents from accesing support services to get helped , i tell you again and again and if i must repeat myself i will repeat myself until my voice makes it clear. 1. I been asked for name of the account as a riot agent told me they help , the second thingh ,someone else entry my ticket and banned me regarding the fact that riot agent pursuit this action , not me , i was just talking about punishments. 2. I haven't been told that i got ip ban from connecting support assistance services . 3. Is clearly i have the right to ask and inform myself about punishment system as much as i don't know how it works and haven't understood until i had some conversations with rioters on support ,but probably you will never understand what means to ban a guy permanet on ip , because he throws questions about punishments . 4. Basically what i done wrong here is that i listen the rioter?? and writed back what he asked for , i thought i will actually get some help , at least if the other agents haven't done nothing to help me , that's not like i should be banned on ip , neither means that ,someone who troll/grief/flames with bad intentions you ,and can escape punishments shouldn't be manually reported , so i do have here a problem as i no longer can acces support services in order to report the disruptive behaviour , who haven't been punished due to my report being ignored. 5. There are hundreds of people who escape the system and don't get banned ,that dosn't mean that i shouldn't have any acces to support assistance as long as i haven't swear anyone when they pursuit the permanent ban on support line assistance over my ip. 6. my friend account got support assistance suspended ,because he offered me acces to write support about the last situation happened , and i banned his account , great workers in riot company . Also not a single Rioter cares about this thread , so much interest in doing your job corectly Riot. AKA RIOT AIN'T READ THE BOARD.
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: Maybe they removed cigar to bring it back in full glory as part of ultimate skin? 🤔🤪 They can always use this as excuse: https://media.tenor.com/images/f01ea68552716d2500f84c02c11f5cb7/tenor.gif
like cigar upgrade animation , or maybe they want to add cigar feature on an ultimate skin , so it can look bad ass And they will make the cigar smoking and lightning ... , even consuming in time =))
: riot be like
wait is she ain't smoking ??
Declined (EUNE)
: Based on the context: **Yes.** he did deserve a punishment. How it was handled: **No.** Reasoning used to punish him: **No.** Ban length: I have no clue what the punishment was or the history behind the account, so that's **not for me to comment on.**
if someone writes kis , with the same meaning , does he get banned or not ??? , i have lv 13 and i play euw , and meet a very difficult toxic person , i have no powers to make manual report , neither to submit his grief behaviour , which i am certainly sure he will not get punished for.
: funny facts
If that guy dosn't get banned ,what's the next step i should do riot , if i have no acces to support line assistance , explain me ??
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