: > [{quoted}](name=XO Mob,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7aETvaIb,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-15T11:53:12.874+0000) > > I'll just reply to the first comment as I'm inting on another account currently. But are you seriously comparing League of Legends, a game by Riot to real life? Wow. Okay, will reply later. LoL is just an extension of real life buddy. Strong mental is what gets you successful in life, as it is in lol. Camping a lane is the same as Sun Tzu's "Divide and conquer", man some things just work in society and it's very easy to see the correlations between real life and games. Even I can see that after a stressfull day at work I rage and tilt ( play over-aggressive) . You are essentially only angry cause you got the punishment but you don't know if they did. I can guarantee, that if they keep up the same aggressive behaviour of blame and denial of own fault, that you displayed in the chat log and our conversation, they will get the punishment they deserve and they won't climb.
> You are essentially only angry cause you got the punishment but you don't know if they did Finally someone caught on. Yes. Because I have already admitted that there was flame and some stuff could've been left out for my thoughts only.
XO Mob (EUW)
: Permantetly banned for being flamed the entire game by 3 different players.
>Playing a match >Someone is tilted from previous match >Tilted player tilts you because perhaps bad matches or even someone tilted him (tilt=bad decisions) >You tilt because not only are you getting flamed, but also because someone is performing poorly >Now you are tilted, you play poorly and there is nothing you can do but ride the literal tsunami out >If you leave, you get punished, if you vent out when tilt, punished. >Riot=Evil Circle This is basically how it works. And this is somehow exactly what Riot is trying to change. Now disagree with everything else I've said, but is this not wrong, and impossible. They have to understand that emotions and games sort of have connection and you can't take that away. It's like they are only trying to keep the happy and positive emotions in, but somehow remove the negative ones and make the "perfect community"? tl:dr just me actually venting. I know there is no getting this account back so I wont bother trying to explain with my bad grammar how I really feel and mean because I can't really put it into words.
: > [{quoted}](name=XO Mob,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7aETvaIb,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-15T11:08:05.681+0000) > > 1. Point is irrelevant. > > 2. Yes, very unnecessary but has something to do with my previous comment on the other guy. > > 3. Point however makes more sense. But that's usually the biological reaction in the brain when stuff goes downhill. You wanna give up. > > 4. Threatning to run it down if I don't stop getting trolled. Isn't running it down also trolling. Also, check previous comment on this. Shouldn't that be just as bannable as me saying literally 3 **compeletely** harmless words? It makes no sense. > > > Like I mentioned previously, if messing with peoples mental counts as toxicity. Then how come the 3 players that tilted **and** flamed me for basically the entire 30 minute game not get punished? Not even a Chat Restriction because I'm pretty sure you get a notification either way, ban or chat restriction. 1. Ah you see, but it is relevant whether you play the blame game or not buddy. Try doing that in a serious job or in a relationship, things go downhill very, very fast. The toxic part of it is that by blaming, you are effectively washing your hands saying "me good, you bad, you listen, cause you trash". Like no dude, just a general pointer for life man, if something goes wrong, say "we messed up, we could have done this differently like this…"- not "you messed up"- like what does that let them know? The natural response will be "no you"- cause that's the defensive gear that the mind jumps in to. So yes, it's your mindset that is toxic to you yourself. By always blaming the world, you are essentially saying you are too weak to actually work things out, blame is the easy way out for stress. And yes, stress is natural, I rage at the game too! But just a quick heads up, instead of hitting the enter button, just hit your pillow. Instead of shouting at your team mates in game, shout in to your pillow. To sum it up man. Toxicity is selfish spreading of negative emotions without regard for their feelings. Toxicity is making others feel bad because you feel bad. Am I saying the other players don't deserve punishment? I dunno, can't see their chat logs. However , I can safely say, that if they spent most of their game afk typing to respond to you, then they have been sabotaging their games, both mentally and phisically due to time loss. I also assume this is not your first offense. Maybe you have been on a tilt spree recently and the reports have just added up man. Advice for future accounts. If u get angry, don't type. If you HAVE TO TYPE , start the sentance with "we", that is a good way of making it a non aggressive comment. ;) And just remember, maybe team mates make mistakes on rotations, but if they don't rotate, you are also the one making the mistake "assuming " that they will rotate. Afterall, to assume , to assume is to make an A-S-S out of U and ME . ;)
Also, you trying to judge me based on my League of Legends chat log is kinda ridicolous. I am in no way even the slightest rude in real life. So stop trying to give me life advices. Because before you do, I atleast hope your above the age of 25. Giving life advices before that just seems kinda, weird. As you haven't really experienced life at all. I don't wanna come off as rude here, at all. And I get some of your points aswell, solid ones. But, to expose myself a little. I grew up with anger, and a pretty not-so-nice father (ohh cool edgy kid ik) and I mostly use anger as a solution to problems. Like the anger is a automatic reaction to whenever bad stuff happens. That's why I do in one way feel like the victim playing this game because obviously Riot is trying to, idk, reform the human biological things and make everyone a non-tilter. Which is kinda the way explained by the Tribal whatever it's called, forgot. Anyway, I have some moments where I just shut up, or mute and play the game. And I, like many others have days/weeks where people just get to you and tilt you. It's all just a circle of evil really.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: >XO Mob: %%%%ing cuck Attacking teammates. Even your "explanation" makes it look like it was said towards Ekko. >XO Mob: no ganks XO Mob: xD XO Mob: im %%%%ing done It nowhere sounds like "I can't gank you for now, as I'm behind". This exactly sounds like "I refuse to play with you" and that you decide to throw the game. >XO Mob: ill %%%%ing sit in the jungle XO Mob: for the entire XO Mob: game XO Mob: im not even kidding XO Mob: excpect no ganks XO Mob: expect no rotations XO Mob: jsut saiyng, Oh yes. This exactly sound like telling your teammates that you can't gank because you're behind. Okay, who are you trying to lie to? Yourself? Because no one will ever believe that, seeing this text. >XO Mob: will run it down It can be easily understood as intentionally feeding, 'cause the common name for that is "running it down mid". Rest of your chat is basically you trying to piss your team or/and flame them. Yet, you clearly feel that you are a victim and not oppressor for some reason.
You keep making shit up left and right. Where did I ever say that I shouldn't have been punished because I'm some rape victim? The %%%% dude. I said that I found it very unfair that I am the only one getting punished for something that 3 others were completely a part of aswell. Jesus, your actually making me salty by not understand a single word said. > Now, could someone explain how this is a fair punishment in any way?
Wex0r (EUW)
: The reason its permanent is because you have failed to reform. You have gone through the system with chat restriction then 14 day ban and have not reformed so permanent it is.
I see, finally someone that answers basically anything. But I'm a little confused though. Because the Chat Restriction was a long time ago. Probably up to 1 year or even 2. The 14 day suspension was a couple of months ago or something. And now the ban. As I mentioned earlier I've gotten more than one 14 days suspension and I gotta admit, at the time I was pretty toxic/tilting and yet it took Riot 3 years to permanentely ban me.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: MOST of the time you won't receive an ifr if someone gets punished from your report So, you have NO idea if they got punished or nah And if they broke the rules, they did get punished
If that is your experience then I can assure you, the players you have reported weren't banned. Everytime I've reported someone and someone has gotten a ban, I've gotten an Instant Feedback Report back saying basically they have been punished.
: i suggest you read the 2 week ban message again. the information is right there in black and white
If this is the case, then could you explain why my first ever League account got **TWO** 14 day suspensions?
: > [{quoted}](name=XO Mob,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=7aETvaIb,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-11-15T11:08:05.681+0000) > > 1. Point is irrelevant. > > 2. Yes, very unnecessary but has something to do with my previous comment on the other guy. > > 3. Point however makes more sense. But that's usually the biological reaction in the brain when stuff goes downhill. You wanna give up. > > 4. Threatning to run it down if I don't stop getting trolled. Isn't running it down also trolling. Also, check previous comment on this. Shouldn't that be just as bannable as me saying literally 3 **compeletely** harmless words? It makes no sense. > > > Like I mentioned previously, if messing with peoples mental counts as toxicity. Then how come the 3 players that tilted **and** flamed me for basically the entire 30 minute game not get punished? Not even a Chat Restriction because I'm pretty sure you get a notification either way, ban or chat restriction. 1. Ah you see, but it is relevant whether you play the blame game or not buddy. Try doing that in a serious job or in a relationship, things go downhill very, very fast. The toxic part of it is that by blaming, you are effectively washing your hands saying "me good, you bad, you listen, cause you trash". Like no dude, just a general pointer for life man, if something goes wrong, say "we messed up, we could have done this differently like this…"- not "you messed up"- like what does that let them know? The natural response will be "no you"- cause that's the defensive gear that the mind jumps in to. So yes, it's your mindset that is toxic to you yourself. By always blaming the world, you are essentially saying you are too weak to actually work things out, blame is the easy way out for stress. And yes, stress is natural, I rage at the game too! But just a quick heads up, instead of hitting the enter button, just hit your pillow. Instead of shouting at your team mates in game, shout in to your pillow. To sum it up man. Toxicity is selfish spreading of negative emotions without regard for their feelings. Toxicity is making others feel bad because you feel bad. Am I saying the other players don't deserve punishment? I dunno, can't see their chat logs. However , I can safely say, that if they spent most of their game afk typing to respond to you, then they have been sabotaging their games, both mentally and phisically due to time loss. I also assume this is not your first offense. Maybe you have been on a tilt spree recently and the reports have just added up man. Advice for future accounts. If u get angry, don't type. If you HAVE TO TYPE , start the sentance with "we", that is a good way of making it a non aggressive comment. ;) And just remember, maybe team mates make mistakes on rotations, but if they don't rotate, you are also the one making the mistake "assuming " that they will rotate. Afterall, to assume , to assume is to make an A-S-S out of U and ME . ;)
I'll just reply to the first comment as I'm inting on another account currently. But are you seriously comparing League of Legends, a game by Riot to real life? Wow. Okay, will reply later.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: But how do you know that the Ekko never got punished?
I would have gotten a notification. I wasen't permanetly banned instant. It took about 10-15 minutes after the game.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: >To my knowledge you usually recieve two 14 day mans before getting permanently banned. It is not true. On your 14-days reform card, there should be information, that the next penalty is the permanent lose of account. And it was like this from the time the tribunal ceased to exist.
Never got any information about next ban being a permanent.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: The first thing that you have done in game, was attacking your teammates. And you start it even before pointing that your mid and top started flaming you. In short, you started flame wars, and then starts complaining that you get flamed back and getting banned is unfair. What more, you admit in the chat, that you are not going to play for a win, because your ego was hurt by (?) Ekko not helping you with blue? You also threat your team that you will start inting. Fully deserved ban.
Also, where did I attack my teammates? Ekko's original pick was Ryze, as he selected him before the champion selection started. Then got it snatched from our first pick mid. All I said was that it was rude, stated in the chat logs. Never attacked anyone. Though you could call it defending a teammate.
Mcgalakar (EUNE)
: The first thing that you have done in game, was attacking your teammates. And you start it even before pointing that your mid and top started flaming you. In short, you started flame wars, and then starts complaining that you get flamed back and getting banned is unfair. What more, you admit in the chat, that you are not going to play for a win, because your ego was hurt by (?) Ekko not helping you with blue? You also threat your team that you will start inting. Fully deserved ban.
You clearly haven't read the chat logs and the explanation I even put into the chat log to get some context. Reason why I said I wouldn't gank (Which in no book or rule is a must) is because I got bot side stolen which puts me behind alot and me needing to get ahead again by power farming. And nowhere do I say I'm gonna stop playing the game/match. Nowhere. However I say I won't rotate and/or gank. Mostly because I'm behind, and I'm getting thrown under the bus everytime I get invaded by either Jungle+Top or Mid+Jungle.
: There are a few toxic things you do: 1.Playing the blame game. 2. Telling them to "eat poop" 3. Saying you are "fking done"-spamming fine and displaying a negative, attitude that you give up and don't care. 4. Threatening to run it down mid. Messing with peoples' mental with out any positive intent is toxic. You could have said theses things much differently. For starters, try saying "we" instead of "you" , it makes it less personal and work wonders both in game, you personal life and work life. Adopt the attitude of "we are all in this together", not "I am doing my thing fine and you are messing up".
1. Point is irrelevant. 2. Yes, very unnecessary but has something to do with my previous comment on the other guy. 3. Point however makes more sense. But that's usually the biological reaction in the brain when stuff goes downhill. You wanna give up. 4. Threatning to run it down if I don't stop getting trolled. Isn't running it down also trolling. Also, check previous comment on this. Shouldn't that be just as bannable as me saying literally 3 **compeletely** harmless words? It makes no sense. Like I mentioned previously, if messing with peoples mental counts as toxicity. Then how come the 3 players that tilted **and** flamed me for basically the entire 30 minute game not get punished? Not even a Chat Restriction because I'm pretty sure you get a notification either way, ban or chat restriction.
: > So basically League's system can be summed up in a way that if 5 players are being toxic, but everyone turns on one guy (Me this game) then the one guy with most reports gets handed the banhammer? Because I don't see any different way I could've gotten banned as our top (Ekko) was literally chatting all game long, even though I had calmed down and stopped replying to him. You almost got it right, with one little bitty mistake. League system can be summed up like this : If 5 players are being toxic, and everyone turns on one guy, and he flames his ass off, then gets reported one to four times (because report numbers don't matter, as we all know this), due to previous punishments that served as a warning, said reported player will indeed lose access to his account. What said player should have done, was muting everyone (we got a mute button btw, use see if it works, when you get into a game from your next account), or you can use the command /mute all. - THEN proceeding to report every single person that was toxic. And don't give me the classic "but the others never get banned". - You were toxic - Report numbers don't matter - You got banned Following that logic, the system works as intended, and everyone will eventually get banned, if breaks the rules enough times. Cheers.
I am a very understanding person. So I do understand what you're saying. What I don't understand though is you point out "but the others never get banned", I never claimed that people never get banned. But when (not clearly, as I cannot access Ekkos chat logs from that game) Ekko flames and is chatting for **LITERALLY** the entire game, may I also add that it had nothing to do with the game itself, mostly flaming me or someone else. He never got punished. So clearly numbers of report in one game/session must matter. I've had this account for roughly 2 years. I have gotten 2 restrictions and one 14 day suspension. I've always gotten my Honor up and been able to get rewards. All I'm saying is I clearly understand there is flame, as pointed out by **myself** but, I do not in any way find the flame so **EXTREMELY** inflammatory as Riot's automated message indicates. I would completely understand a 14 day suspenion. To my knowledge you usually recieve two 14 day mans before getting permanently banned. That was atleast the case on my other account long time ago back in S5. And you say that it's logic and everyone should follow the system. Then are you "implying" that because someone has a temper they shouldn't or aren't allowed to play League? Not everyone goes to Yoga and does spiritual stuff that keeps them calm. Many people come from rough childhoods that turn them into perhaps slightly more angrier than others which often result in more flaming and tilting. That's just logic, common sense whatever you wanna call it.
: Okay buddy. Speak after you have experience or information.
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Shamose (EUW)
: Can Riot %%%% off with the white theme?
Get Dark Reader. (Google Chrome addon) Works for basically anything. Some sites might need tweaking.
: Also this system could be turned off after diamond, it would still affect majority of players and most of the afks are in the lower elo anyway.
Anoligarh (EUW)
: People who were bronze/silver for a long time, what changed and how did you climb?
I can give two advices that helped me get from hardstuck Gold to Diamond IV (Currently Plat). Learn one champion but do not keep your champion pool small. So basically I picked up Lee in season 4/5 when I started playing League. By playing him A LOT I can usually tell what my opponents playing Lee will try to do. For example, more mechnical insecs, or just fancier plays. Making it easier to shutdown and, or deny. Second advice is just abuse meta champions. There's a reason they are meta, because they work and win (doesn't really have to be the casae) the most games the current patch. While climbing Diamond I played Tristana top (funny enough, I wanna say I invented Tristana top meta). And one thing that you always should keep in mind is MACROS. Such as, when to do drake, turrets etc.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. It was always announced that you need to own the skin to use the golden chroma. If you at a later point unlocked Dragonblade, you'll get to use the chroma then.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=PRXfRHxT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-12T20:07:44.613+0000) > > Greetings. > > It was always announced that you need to own the skin to use the golden chroma. If you at a later point unlocked Dragonblade, you'll get to use the chroma then. Oh lord where could I find that information? I never heard of it either. Sadface.
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