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: > [{quoted}](name=V1zzerdrix,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lEMd1lEv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T15:58:35.123+0000) > > My problem is I consciously refuse to shut up in some situations Why? Is your ego that large? *** > [{quoted}](name=V1zzerdrix,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lEMd1lEv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T15:58:35.123+0000) > > And mind **it's not like I insult them back, not heavily at least** > There are ways to respond to insults without insulting and I usually resort to those. You're contradicting yourself. You either insult or you don't. There's no middle term here. *** > [{quoted}](name=V1zzerdrix,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lEMd1lEv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T15:58:35.123+0000) > > BUT that's still enough to have me punished in the long run. I will never trigger an auto-punishment but I do get restricted over time since I play a lot and the reports I receive while meaningless by their own, do add up appearently. If you **never** insult someone else, it doesn't matter how long it takes because you'll **never** be punished. "Meaningless" reports don't add up because "meaningless" reports are discarded. By meaningless I assume not valid. However, if those reports are valid, because of something you said, then they're not meaningless. One may not get you punished on first offense, but do it often enough and you eventually will. So, which one is it: do you insult or do you not? *** > [{quoted}](name=V1zzerdrix,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lEMd1lEv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T15:58:35.123+0000) > > If Riot is telling me "ignore them, mute them, don't reply to them no matter what", FINE, I can accept that **IF** Riot will deal with them in my place. Implying you "talking back" to them will change anything. It really doesn't, thus why you shouldn't talk back at all. Besides, you're doing your part if all you are doing is reporing toxic behaviour. You don't **need** to talk back. *** > [{quoted}](name=V1zzerdrix,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lEMd1lEv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T15:58:35.123+0000) > > But here's the thing. Riot WON'T deal with them. A ban is meaningless if said flamer can just jump back in game on a fresh account to flame even harder. Again, implying whatever you tell them, the flamers, will change anything about their behaviour. It won't. You're just another random player and most flamers won't give two shits about what a random player is telling them. Your only viable option is to report them. Toxicity is eventually dealt with, even if it takes banning the same players more than 20 times. *** > [{quoted}](name=V1zzerdrix,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lEMd1lEv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T15:58:35.123+0000) > > Basically Riot is trying to enforce a paternalistic policy by removing from players the ability to defend themselves by talking back to offenders There's no such thing as "defeding yourself from words". Words can't hurt you. Words from a random stranger only have as much power as you give them. Sure, if someone is mentality unstable, then those words might trigger something, but those words aren't the reason why the trigger exists in the first place. *** > [{quoted}](name=V1zzerdrix,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lEMd1lEv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T15:58:35.123+0000) > > If you wanna make us into sissies who either shut up and take it You look more like a sissie if you "talk back" because your ego is that fragile. *** > [{quoted}](name=V1zzerdrix,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=lEMd1lEv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T15:58:35.123+0000) > > But can they not or WILL they not? Because IP-banning all the hardcore flamers would hit their playerbase too hard? IP-bans don't work. Try something else. *** *** You know what's really interesting? You not using your main account. Feels like you are trying to hide something. Do you not believe your own words? What are you afraid off? https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/7d/LoL_Facebook_Icon_21.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029214053
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: A look at Riot's policy
[](http://imgur.com/a/F4879ak) This is what an undeserved chat restriction looks like, you have complete freedom to share this. I have played the game many years, without hassle, always recieving instant feedback reports and helping other learn to play and not be toxic. Suddenly, after this game, I got a chat restriction, never been warned ever, never even done a bad thing before. It reset me to honour level 0 right before the end of the season. Cheating me out of my well earned honour level 5 (which I think I was one of the first people to achieve). I actually contacted player support, in which(I can post the correspondence), they blatantly deny any responsibility and infer themselves I hadn't actually done anything wrong. I quoted their "summoners code" to them, which they had said I had broken in this chat log. I pointed out each part of the code, and shown I had not. They replied calling me stupid (IRONIC I WAS THE ONE CHAT RESTRICTED) and basically told me I need to learn to read better. The player support is appalling, has never helped me in the past when I have brought up homophobia against me ( I sent a ticket showing clear evidence of it, yet that person was still playing which our so much as a ban) yet here I was, being chat restricted for nothing. Anyone who claims this system is fair, has not experienced the very clear, lacking ability of both the automation and staff involved in "supporting" players. I was going to take it further, however, they provide no links, no point of contact and are secretive. I scoured everywhere to find out an office number to no avail. If you are punished unfairly, as like in my chat restriction, don't bother doing anything, the company does not care about its loyal playerbase. It cares only about money and publicity. It is certainly clear, hell, support even suggested I play a different game. GREAT way to keep your playerbase huh? Edits: http://imgur.com/a/F4879ak - Chat Log The context to these logs is as follows: I was being flamed, being called '%%%%%%ed', told I was inting. All whilst they blamed me for losing and called me an idiot and worse. Hence why I say "lose one game=idiot" I merely quoted what they said to me. The only 'insult' I used was calling them flamers, which is the nicest thing you can say to someone that calls you '%%%%%%ed'.

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