Palas1337 (EUW)
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: In my many many LoL games I've only met trolls like that a couple of times. And what you are saying is pretty much like: 'I met an angry man outside so im staying inside for the rest of my life'. Just fucking mute and ignore. Is it really that hard? Why would you want to understand a random stranger you have never met before? Whats the point? These whiney posts are as annoying as the trollers themselves
> [{quoted}](name=Wankin,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Iss8TmpJ,comment-id=002f,timestamp=2015-12-08T17:02:22.096+0000) > > In my many many LoL games I've only met trolls like that a couple of times. And what you are saying is pretty much like: 'I met an angry man outside so im staying inside for the rest of my life'. > > Just fucking mute and ignore. Is it really that hard? Why would you want to understand a random stranger you have never met before? Whats the point? > > These whiney posts are as annoying as the trollers themselves Meeting an angry person outside is no real comparison. An angry man outside can see you, you are both present in the same place, not a thousand miles hidden behind a monitor. An angry man has nothing to hide behind, if he has problem and confronts you, then he has a confidence he is right, he believes he is standing up for himself. Whereas on League every toxic player has no reason, no motive just a sick delusional mindset that makes them a scourge on the gaming community. I respect the angry man outside. I loathe the kid indoors passing abuse off to people in a virtual world.
Elkzahr (EUW)
: Thanks for your opinion but I havent been banned a single time since season 2 except for a leave here and there. At the same time Ive NEVER been added by someone followed by flaming. It makes you think where the problem really lies. I wonder what op's chat logs look like
> [{quoted}](name=Elkzahr,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Iss8TmpJ,comment-id=001d00010000,timestamp=2015-12-08T11:37:12.927+0000) > > Thanks for your opinion but I havent been banned a single time since season 2 except for a leave here and there. At the same time Ive NEVER been added by someone followed by flaming. It makes you think where the problem really lies. > > I wonder what op's chat logs look like Normally empty, apart from the occasionally 'gj', 'nice work', 'ty', 'np' to my team mates to create some positivity. If there was a way to show them to you, I would happily do so.
Narimasa (EUW)
: Spoken like a true toxic player. This isnt a "victim culture", this is the result of a playerbase forgetting common sense. You seem to be part of the problem. I think OP did great with this post, it was actually interesting to read for once and not just a massive facepalm at someone complaining about a bad game. Well written, well formulated with great spacing made it a pleasant read - and the point is as valid as it's ever been. Sounds like they mostly played with normal or even unusually well-mannered players. There is of course that one player that takes everything deathly serious, and that's the player that makes an issue out of every game. I would know, i used to be -almost- that bad three years ago. You know it's becoming a real problem when they go to such a lenght as to add their victim to keep harrassing them in the private chat post-game - its as if them showing courtesy to the winning team by claiming "gg wp" is a personal offence to these people. It's unbelieveable, and yet i see it happens more and more often. From the two times i saw it happen in season two to the most recent **eight** times it has happened _this very preseason_, this is just becoming more and more common. Its despicable, and yet there's literally nothing we can do about it.
> [{quoted}](name=Narimasa,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Iss8TmpJ,comment-id=001d0001,timestamp=2015-12-08T00:20:55.365+0000) > > Spoken like a true toxic player. This isnt a "victim culture", this is the result of a playerbase forgetting common sense. You seem to be part of the problem. > > I think OP did great with this post, it was actually interesting to read for once and not just a massive facepalm at someone complaining about a bad game. Well written, well formulated with great spacing made it a pleasant read - and the point is as valid as it's ever been. Sounds like they mostly played with normal or even unusually well-mannered players. There is of course that one player that takes everything deathly serious, and that's the player that makes an issue out of every game. I would know, i used to be -almost- that bad three years ago. You know it's becoming a real problem when they go to such a lenght as to add their victim to keep harrassing them in the private chat post-game - its as if them showing courtesy to the winning team by claiming "gg wp" is a personal offence to these people. It's unbelieveable, and yet i see it happens more and more often. From the two times i saw it happen in season two to the most recent **eight** times it has happened _this very preseason_, this is just becoming more and more common. Its despicable, and yet there's literally nothing we can do about it. Thanks man, I really appreciate the kind words. This was my first post on the boards so I didn't know what to expect. Naturally words aren't my strong suit (I prefer numbers haha), but I am glad you enjoyed my lengthy post. Hopefully I will have more to contribute in the future. I completely agree with you, and this sense of toxicity becoming a normality, not only in League but in other online games is a serious problem. I remember playing games as a kid online and harassment wasn't a problem. Now jump forward 10 years and the whole internet is filled with people dedicating their live to inflict misery on others. You are correct, there is nothing we can do. A sad but true fact.
Noxxarian (EUNE)
: It's an ego problem and a lack of power. In a game if you overpowered someone, not just by skill but simply by anything. Being kind, being liked or even not being bothered by someone, people get the feeling of "HOW DARE YOU NOT BEND UNDER MY WORDS" so they feel the need to bend you so they will have power. It's literally a hunger and they have to satisfy it by making you feel bad so they get to display their power and feel in charge. That's why when people fight back, it's a lot more interesting because toxic players have succeeded in pulling you down to their level. If you just laugh and not take them seriously, it pisses them off because it means you are not acting by their rule book. You're not giving them control so they do whatever it takes to regain this control. So they'll add you and put all extra effort into making you cringe. Some will even insult you and leave before seeing your reaction, so they can assume they managed to break you and feel good about themselves. Naturally if you explained this to them they will not accept it, they'll just spam you instead.
> [{quoted}](name=Noxxarian,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Iss8TmpJ,comment-id=0025,timestamp=2015-12-08T09:31:14.797+0000) > > It's an ego problem and a lack of power. In a game if you overpowered someone, not just by skill but simply by anything. Being kind, being liked or even not being bothered by someone, people get the feeling of "HOW DARE YOU NOT BEND UNDER MY WORDS" so they feel the need to bend you so they will have power. It's literally a hunger and they have to satisfy it by making you feel bad so they get to display their power and feel in charge. That's why when people fight back, it's a lot more interesting because toxic players have succeeded in pulling you down to their level. If you just laugh and not take them seriously, it pisses them off because it means you are not acting by their rule book. You're not giving them control so they do whatever it takes to regain this control. So they'll add you and put all extra effort into making you cringe. Some will even insult you and leave before seeing your reaction, so they can assume they managed to break you and feel good about themselves. > > Naturally if you explained this to them they will not accept it, they'll just spam you instead. I couldn't have said it better myself. You are a wise man/woman.
: I'm sorry to tell you this, but because the world around us is so nasty its just natural that LoL community is too. And no we don't run away into computergames and virtual worlds like you wish, we approach the problems irl and then maybe if those get fixed lol community will be cured too.
> [{quoted}](name=PentaTentakel,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Iss8TmpJ,comment-id=0027,timestamp=2015-12-08T09:50:41.822+0000) > > I'm sorry to tell you this, but because the world around us is so nasty its just natural that LoL community is too. And no we don't run away into computergames and virtual worlds like you wish, we approach the problems irl and then maybe if those get fixed lol community will be cured too. How about we leave our problems in the real world? Would that not allow for a better environment to play League?
Elkzahr (EUW)
: "baww I got flamed in leaguf og fignead" do you know what you could've done when you got a "barrage of hateful comments"? Click the "home" or "play again" button. do you know what you could've done after you accepted that friend request? Delete and block him as soon as he started flaming and realise you probably shouldn't do that again instead you chose to cry and even quit league of legends over it. if you're going to worry about every single a**hole in this game without simply ignoring it and carrying on it's all on you. I hate this victim culture so much.
> [{quoted}](name=Elkzahr,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Iss8TmpJ,comment-id=001d,timestamp=2015-12-07T23:26:34.522+0000) > > "baww I got flamed in leaguf og fignead" > > do you know what you could've done when you got a "barrage of hateful comments"? Click the "home" or "play again" button. > > do you know what you could've done after you accepted that friend request? Delete and block him as soon as he started flaming and realise you probably shouldn't do that again > > instead you chose to cry and even quit league of legends over it. if you're going to worry about every single a**hole in this game without simply ignoring it and carrying on it's all on you. > > I hate this victim culture so much. Sorry man, was just trying to open a discussion on the topic of toxicity by using an anecdote to engage the audience. There shouldn't be a victim culture in first place, the very creation of such a thing requires a social injustice to take place to begin with. Kind of a catch-22, if you ask me. Ironic, yes.
Mesao (EUW)
: I know you mentioned that you know how to ignore but really THAT is the solution. I used to get upset with people's behaviors but now when I see even the possibility of reading anything negative I ignore everybody in the game and focus on the game itself (thank god you can still see pings in order to know what your team wants). The lobby? I exit that faster than a glimpse of an eye. I play the game because I like competition and the game-play, if the community is toxic to hell with them. But yea, I feel you, reading someone wishing you and your family that kinda evil is really upsetting. I am sorry you had to read that man.
> [{quoted}](name=Mesao,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=Iss8TmpJ,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2015-12-07T19:11:55.792+0000) > > I know you mentioned that you know how to ignore but really THAT is the solution. I used to get upset with people's behaviors but now when I see even the possibility of reading anything negative I ignore everybody in the game and focus on the game itself (thank god you can still see pings in order to know what your team wants). > > The lobby? I exit that faster than a glimpse of an eye. I play the game because I like competition and the game-play, if the community is toxic to hell with them. > > But yea, I feel you, reading someone wishing you and your family that kinda evil is really upsetting. I am sorry you had to read that man. You have a good attitude towards the game, I like it. The comments don't really affect me, it's just the thought the someone out their feels like it is necessary to say on a computer that just gets to me. I honestly feel more upset for them, as they have to be going through some serious shit to conjure up something horrible like that.
Xenonkiin (EUW)
: Why I stopped playing League of Legends
Thanks guys for all the feedback! Have been caught up with work so only got round to reading the responses now. I guess I was just kind of pissed when I wrote this, but there was grander message underhand that some of you have brought to light a little more. The internet is just a place for people to exert there problems under to other people, and with anonymity. It really does suck to see it happen, but I don't think there's much we can do. In addition, I wanted to kick up a good intellectual conversation, and I am glad for all the great responses! Nice to see some positivity for a change, eh? ;)
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