: I don't see the problem, it's rock paper scissors scenario. As a mage, you have a tremendous advantage early game as you can land all your poke being safe behind your allies. If you are tank, you are going to suck early game until your team picks up some damage that can go along well with your CC. If you are assassin, you can take out one or more targets but you need damage to do so and you can be zoned by poke. ADCs are the middle of the pack as they are ranged and can land poke but often need time to scale in order to deal with tanks or mages who outrange them. Of course, there are champions that do not go perfectly along this rule but you get the drift. If you happen to draft 5 AP champions into two tanks, you have to force the game out before 15 mins or else tanks catch up and they start tearing you apart because they can now take damage and deal some as well. If you draft 5 melee and have no poke, your life is going to be hell for the first 15 minutes, by which point the games are already over or decided. One more thing, you cannot compare Void Staff to Last Whisper because Void Staff is straight out better and you will need to get Lord Dominik's to match the penetration (plus the fact that not all AD characters do get Lord Dominik's, whereas every AP mage can get Void Staff).
YOu DONT SEE THE PROBLEM? I expletely said only sertain ap have this problem :" But then scaling ap mage and ap assasin " Am I wording it too badly or what.
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: > UPDATE: Now right before you start a game you have a warning that last 0.1 sec. before the game start in the lobby that tells you the game is starting Well, it lasted like 15sec to me?{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
I think you may be lagging then
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BIGG D4DDY (EUNE)
: You should stop perma banning people.
Its not like its china or korea where you can have only 1 account,you can hhave as many as you want.
ryandub (EUW)
: I always lose after a promo due to a feeding top or mid laner. Tbh, I don't remember a game where I lost bot lane :) I think the conclusion to draw here is that we are matched with players with lower MMR in the other lanes and its our job to show off our carry skills no matter what lane your playing. To be honest when I noticed this myself, I changed my play style... I roam more as ADC, gank other lanes, and set up vision for them as well. I also give them the kill when I gank to help them. I'd recommend doing this yourself for other lanes. No harm in doing a little roam before you "b" after pushing a wave. Hope this helps - it really changed things for me.
I some time tries to do that,but playing late game champ most of the time,its pretty hard. It would require a complete hange of play style and champ pool. I'm talking about the gap in bot laner themself,not from me. I tought the new sistem of choosing people form the mmr of thheir role would make it better.
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PRoxy oQ (EUNE)
: i'am talking about lane cs difference am not rly interested in jungle for a long time now. Jungle is heavy crab-gank-wraiths or w/e they call it now focused. Your better of going wraiths crab crab wraiths on junglers than picking up the buffs atm. At least none uses that strat ... Fixing lane cs gold/xp difference would mean separation between early mid and late game champions finally after like 3-6 years (not sure).
I was talking about the farming jungle vs gank jungle. Yeah crab too,trying to farm kill mid is also impossible if the enmy jungle is better,need to go help or he'll just die.
PRoxy oQ (EUNE)
: Simple gameplay fix to return the balance and fix jungle as well.
I can understand cs diference. I just got the whole enemy red side by avoiding vision at lv 1,got all my camps afterward,thhe enemy get 1 gang successfull and now she's magically at my same level.
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LiAuN (EUW)
: i'll state what riot stated on numerous other posts they can't give you LP directly as the lp you gain is calculated by a computer from the date it gets for that specific match so giving u an accurate LP amount is imposible the reason for you not getting LP is because you were afk for 6 minutes which is considerate as your loss no matter what happens saying that you play for no reason after you try to come back is also not the case at least from my point of view yes you still lost but i bet you my ass that if you didn't come back you'd be also reported for being afk where as this was less likely if you came back and tried your hardest
Like report do anything anyway.
MiyukiLia (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MiyukiLia,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ysO1vOmE,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-21T10:52:08.645+0000) > > read it again? I said: everyone is the same and just dont give a f**k. just read the whole thing again you obvs dident read it correct. when I am the one trying to help out saying dont fight in river without wards I am not the one that dosent give a f**k? so what you are saying you want to me just /mute all and keep going for the coinflip win?
Aggressive Guy ask what you mean tell him something is wrong whit him instead of other peoples Guy ask whatst wrong whit him if other peoples dont listen Teel him he's doing wrong but do NOT tell him what to do in these cases Guy ask again Start attacking him personally and tell him he cant soccialize and wont accept help whhitout telling him what he should do instead. NICE
NDPvik (EUNE)
: Searching for girlfriend
I could understand if you were gay,but girl friend...
Smerk (EUW)
: You could always play solo in Flex. You can't play as premade of 4
Yeah for some reason all my group(including me) though you couldnt play flex as 1-2 person since its the game mode for team plays. We are not theh sharpest. I'm the most idiotic probably
Endarae (EUW)
: Looking for plat/diamond mid & top for semi-serious team.
I'm prob still too weak so I want you to make me surpass my level,since i want to make lol my job(and destroy faker). Name:Antonio Age:18 Country:Italy Role(s):Mid - top - jung Comfort picks: every champ that are my role and are: assasin,poke mage,tank,marksman no preference for early,mid or late game champs Experience:been playing since Season 4,have been watching my own replay and correcting them since then,gold 5 last season(just wanted the reward),had played in the chinese server whit win rate around 70% but had to leave after reaching S 1 Have you ever been banned/chat restricted?: never OP.GG link: https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=zedant
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Bronze and gold aren't the same skill level at all Flex doesn't need 3 people. Wtf are you talking about??
Oh it doesnt anymore thanks didnt know that the changed it my bad But yes gold and bronze are the same skill level. I've stayed at those ranks for years now,cant see any big diference between the two..
: Then play normals with them and climb yourself on flex until you are high enough. If you cant, then there is a good reason why you cant que ranked with them.
No,normal are boring for them(me)now,since the mmr is broken(we just get diamond and even challanger one time)and people just troll anyway. If I need to climb there are problems specific whit flex: [How am I suposed to climb in flex,if it require 3 person to start whit and the normal human player doesnt have this many friends that play lol,at his level and whit free time to activetely climb the game.] *This part is wrong soI can climb alone,last time I never tried alone so didnt know that* Just invite random people?Hope there are just enough people to play whit?And hope they can play whit you at your time?And hope they wont quit because they dontlike you or something. Anyway its just a pain to do this just to be able to enjoy the game whit some friends. Its the best to just be able to play whit 2 legue above you before master,there isnt any diference anyway and you still prevent these 11 in a bijtion game where you have a bronze in your diamond game whit the 2 league limit. There are just soo many way to better this system. Or are you suggesting that if you just go afk for a couple of week your friends should stop enjoy the game and play flex OR you shouldnt be able to play whit your friend anymore?
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: > [{quoted}](name=Zedant,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=ekgxKEEX,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T22:29:14.496+0000) > > the issue you say its just a matter or diving players,it can be by giving less reward than normal games and a lesscompetetive advertizing,I dont know about that. > > Something like Dominion point would be good,you can just have fun going around instead of being stuck at defending/attacking tower and cant have a break from people just pushing all the time istead of playing against you. So Dominion was removed since it saw basicly No Play. What makes you think this would See more. Also there is still the thing that there would likely be tryhards that know the Games are easyer in that que. How would they with certanty find them and punish them? Or would they at all.
"Something like Dominion point" Did you miss that? I just suggested dominions point,not the mode itself(doubt they removed dominion for that since twisted tree line still exist). As I told you ALREADY thats just a problem about dividing them,you can either give them low reward,whats the point of going in a easier mode to farm if it gives a low reward? or make games have a set "must play". BUT AS I SAID ALREADY its not my problem to think about this,I just suggested an idea,if you want to add something,do it,I dont want/can just invent a new mode.
: > [{quoted}](name=Zedant,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=ekgxKEEX,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-03-19T20:33:23.183+0000) > > In online video games, it is that guy who is giving it 110% all the time because winning and/or having a high kill/death ratio is more important than just having fun > Thats the definition So how do you determine that someone is given 110%? I often play my main in normals cause its the champ i enjoy the most, have the most fun on. Would i be allowed in the fun que, despite beeing called tryhard by others? Also what would be the like wincondition, cause you cant really play to win without beeing called out a tryhard often.
the issue you say its just a matter or diving players,it can be by giving less reward than normal games and a lesscompetetive advertizing,I dont know about that. Something like Dominion point would be good,you can just have fun going around instead of being stuck at defending/attacking tower and cant have a break from people just pushing all the time istead of playing against you.
: But how would you enforce it? Say a tryharder went into the casual (lets call it) one? Then they would have free reign over the entire game pretty much As well as making que times longer (which riot hates)
1.I'm not nearly qualified enough to make a new gamemode,I just suggested a feedback as a player,if rito like my idea they'll come up whit something better than both of us can think,there is no reason I shhould respond to you question. 2.Thats also why I though about the "report" for try hard in this game mode and the whole tryhard mmr. 3I'm not a genius,you can come up whit the same and better result if you think about it. 4.If I was in a better mood I would bother about it,but now I'm tired.
: > [{quoted}](name=Zedant,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=ekgxKEEX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T18:02:21.561+0000) > > Did you even read thhat I suggested to add a mode for fun? > who told you to not play in normal > > cant you use the dictionary,its defiened in number 2. > https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=try-hard So cant players play their main in this new "fun que" or how does it work. Thats why i asked how do you define tryharding. And dont post a link to a definition. What do you mean when you say people tryhard.
In online video games, it is that guy who is giving it 110% all the time because winning and/or having a high kill/death ratio is more important than just having fun Thats the definition
: And if i want to full try in one game but mess around in the next?
Thats why I suggested a new gamemode instead of just dividing.
: >or has my life been a lie? It would appear so... Also you mentioned nothing about normals (As for a split you mentioned how would you decide who is tryharding or not?)
Your the one mentioning normals,there are certainly way too much tryharders to have fun in normals,I have come to peace whit that,my main problem was that the *completely for fun mode* URF , was filled whit try hards. I forgot to add that the system.. When I created the post,I was thinking a reporting system for try hard or something similar to mmr,where you get divided by your try hard level,but I havent though too deeply about it.
: And so... Normals
Yeah always played normal for fun,but as the main tread says these days people try hard way too much in normal and urf too since its to be a more fun mode,or has my life been a lie?
: Please find a definition that proves me wrong :)
You believe I think try hard are :"playing a champion you're good" While I wrote 3 times already that its:"In online video games, it is that guy who is giving it 110% all the time because winning and/or having a high kill/death ratio is more important than just having fun."
: Whats your definition of tryhard? :) Id be interested to know as it seems anyone doing good is tryharding to you
The second one in the link
: >cant you use the dictionary? >https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=try-hard I believe its you who cant use a dictionary my friend :) >Urban >Relating to Towns or Cities Meaning.... not the actual definition... I don't think a phrase is in a dictionary (unless its used in the meaning of a word) But... lets just go along with what you said... >In online video games, it is that guy who is giving it 110% all the time because winning and/or having a high kill/death ratio is more important >than just having fun. Try hards are most common in games like Halo or Call of Duty and are frequently seen yelling at their teammates for dying >a lot. Nothing in here against what Timethief said? >Did you even read thhat I suggested to add a mode for fun? Yes. Normals Double reply but my annoying personality had to
"Nothing in here against what Timethief said?" I just assumed he meant goin try hard while playing main,because if he didnt meant that. As you said,nothing would go against what a try hard is,at that point why post it here? Thats what I though,hence the reply. i just assumed we knew what a try hard is my bad. I know its a urban,but what else can define it? If everyone uses objective meanings you cant have conversation. If you have a "better" meaning,show me that and I'll change,until then this is the meaning of the *try hard* in my book. EXTRA:I have that personality too nice to meet you.
: The way I see things, you believe that playing a champion you're good at is tryharding? I play my main lots in normals but I don't necessarily "Tryhard".
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=try-hard Yeah you're wrong.
: when did rito remove Normal raft and blind pick?
Look at the guys below you,thats why normal are full of try hard nowdays..
: Define "try hard". If i like to play a champ, have fun on it, but am good on it, am i not allowed to play it on normals cause its tryhard? Am i only allowed to play champs im bad at?
Did you even read thhat I suggested to add a mode for fun? who told you to not play in normal cant you use the dictionary,its defiened in number 2. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=try-hard
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Zedant (EUW)
: Reworked Kayle Jungle viable - ZL Montage #36
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: Can someone explains This MatchMaking system for me?
Niolong (EUW)
: The worst game ever
You should have recorded the game and then reported them.
Hansiman (EUW)
: I'm still not sure what you mean. =/ Those are two key fragments, but you may have full keys. You'll see those at the bottom of the loot page, by your orange essence counter.
those are the only key I have vs 22 chest.
Hansiman (EUW)
: How did what happen?
look at chest,look at key
VIT Laati (EUNE)
: Gangplank just go in and can survive, do some dmg like Brand or Zyra and has multiple utility like two AoE slows and a global ult. GP support new meta boys!
Expect gangplank cant do anything before 3 items and lv 11
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Shah666 (EUW)
: Looking for Try Harders For team
Zedant (EUW)
: Can you like... defeat this one?
Tarolock (EUNE)
: and which one is the less impactful role?
Like everything that is not bot lane a few years ago. Mid lane in high elo(I'm not high elo,but I saw faker saying that). Adc in early game. Assasin.. and just these for now. Dont ask about this anymore,I'm interested for now so I wont respond the next one.
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Tarolock (EUNE)
: if the queue time is short (meaning that all roles gets filled really fast) it means that everyone is around the same mmr (for example 1500) but once the queue time goes up then there can be a bigger difference in mmr, which means that ppl can end up in the same team with 1250 and 1750 mmr but the average is still 1500 so its "balanced", this is why its a team game, because as a team you can win even if the other team have much better players
isnt it a team game because you have to play whit your team to win? mmr is not individual means: If you take a less impactfull role you are going to lose more,compared to your enemy that has the same mmr but a strong champ/role.Which means you have to take strong champ in strong lane to rank faster. After this riot introduced mmr based on your role right?So I doubt it still goes like this.
Hansiman (EUW)
: I'm not sure what you mean here. You're grouped up with people that corresponds to your MMR.
"It groups players based on their MMR, so that both teams have roughly the same level of skill in them." You mean that the team will have a similar mmr,not the indivudual player(laning phase)right?
Smerk (EUW)
: it's a competitive game, so what do you expect to see? The only way to not get any tryhards 100% is to play coop games with full premade or custom games
Its not a competetive game? What are talking about...
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