cathartic (EUW)
: Items self activating
Well I've reinstalled and tried a game with Morgana and it was fine. Let's hope the bug doesn't come back with the next update.
Murdarici (EUNE)
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No. As I have already said. I'm pretty damn sure it's not fat fingers.
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Doomley (EUW)
: No jungler farms only their own jungle. They also counter jungle and push lanes. Also the 150 was just an estimate thrown out there which i remember seen in one of the worlds matches. In every game i checked, junglers had over 100 farm at 20 mins and about 150 at 25 mins. It still is a lot more than you had. the mastery grades come from you being compared to other players playing the same champion in the same role. So ofc to get a higher grade, you need to play better. You can't just expect to farm like a silver and get s grades easily. When it comes to farm on junglers in worlds, it's a bit lower than that of a soloq because its a lot more organized and people group up much earlier so the farm is being split. Most of the time grouping is not even a good idea in soloq and the games can still be fast. The game you watched, elise had 76 at 20 mins but olaf had 107. You can't just watch one jungler or one game to look at the average.
I found this article that is interesting: http://www.leaguemath.com/farm-and-wards-per-league-per-role/ Read the part about junglers. In particular notice that on average bronze junglers get higher CS/minute than challenger junglers, which makes a mockery of the whole idea of including cs into grade calculations for junglers. Of course challenger junglers don't waste the time they spend not csing. They secure objectives far better, gank much better, and ward much better. Perhaps I should work on my warding. I'm not sure it will be enough.
Doomley (EUW)
: No jungler farms only their own jungle. They also counter jungle and push lanes. Also the 150 was just an estimate thrown out there which i remember seen in one of the worlds matches. In every game i checked, junglers had over 100 farm at 20 mins and about 150 at 25 mins. It still is a lot more than you had. the mastery grades come from you being compared to other players playing the same champion in the same role. So ofc to get a higher grade, you need to play better. You can't just expect to farm like a silver and get s grades easily. When it comes to farm on junglers in worlds, it's a bit lower than that of a soloq because its a lot more organized and people group up much earlier so the farm is being split. Most of the time grouping is not even a good idea in soloq and the games can still be fast. The game you watched, elise had 76 at 20 mins but olaf had 107. You can't just watch one jungler or one game to look at the average.
So is the average 100 or 150? Make up your mind! And in worlds many of the junglers picked were junglers that are very good at farming (e.g. Olaf). Many other jungler champions won't match that. But just to check your figures again, I decided to open up another random game. This time on a You tube video since you claimed solo-q is different. I tried looking at Valkrin's latest game, but it was only highlights. So I went to Foxdrops channel (a master tier jungler) and looked at his most recent game. Playing Rek'sai he got 77 farm at 20 minutes. Doesn't seem so different to worlds. > You can't just expect to farm like a silver and get s grades easily. Well some of us are gold and silvers. I'm pretty sure other roles aren't expected to farm like a challenger to get S grades. And to be quite honest, in my Skarner game I described, I did far more for my team by setting up kills and securing objectives than I would have done if I'd have afk farmed the jungle and stolen a load of lane farm every time I ganked.
Doomley (EUW)
: It doesn't remove the fact that your farm was worse than the average farm of that champion in the jungle. And yes, the best way to get high ranks is to farm. You don't have to be selfish to farm. You aren't very efficient if you can't farm well while doing other things. Even pro korean junglers have about 150 farm at 20 minutes so why can't you in 25 mins? It's just a matter of efficiency.
Even pro-Korean junglers? So the standard for an S nowadays is to farm as well as Korean pros???? I presume your figures come from before the new jungle patch. There were only 16 creeps in each jungle. 17 if you assume you also take one of the crabs. 6 of those creeps have a 5 minute respawn (at the buffs). That doesn't give 150 farm at 20 mins. Farm rate is also highly dependent on champion. E.g. Graves, Olaf or Reksai will farm far faster than , for example Volibear. P.S. I just double checked your claim of "150 farm at 20 minutes". Opened a semi-random world championship game (semi-finals game 1). I'm currently looking at Elise (Peanut) having 74 farm at 19.17. Guess she must have farmed hard in those last 43 seconds.
Doomley (EUW)
: Farming is the most important way of getting gold because it's the only reliable way to get it. about 150 farm equals 10 kills. It's not even hard to get that amount of farm per game. The highest factor in grades is cs.
The only way to get high farm numbers in a 25 minute game as a tank jungler is to take lane cs as well as jungle. So you're saying that the best way to get chests is to be selfish and piss off my laners? Perhaps I should have skipped soloing the inferno drake that game and afk farmed bot lane instead? (in a longer game, split pushing makes sense on a lot of junglers and can give high farm. In a 25 minute game it doesn't).
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