VIT Laati (EUNE)
: At least he has mana costs. Unlike the other balanced champ with dashes, stuns and shields.
> [{quoted}](name=VIT Laati,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Xwvrr2lM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-04T10:05:25.913+0000) > > At least he has mana costs. > > Unlike the other balanced champ with dashes, stuns and shields. Nerf {{champion:92}}
: trynda mains are not allowed to talk about other champs
> [{quoted}](name=NinJaSenpaî,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=OkKmR9i8,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-09-01T20:51:08.558+0000) > > trynda mains are not allowed to talk about other champs Riven fanboys are not allowed to talk to other mains.
: Oh my you play {{champion:23}} and complain about braindead champ MEGALUL. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=sRzV0ppM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-31T05:14:45.561+0000) > > Oh my you play {{champion:23}} and complain about braindead champ MEGALUL. > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} Every champion he mentioned smashes Tryndamere. Why? Spear of Shojin. They will burst you down, force you to ult, and you cant all in them because their cooldowns will be back up in 2 seconds ( CC, Dashes )
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: Don't Buff Riven
Everytime they nerf riven, They buff her right back afterwards, Brain Delayed Devs.
: Riven still a joke of a champion
RIVEN IS GETTING BUFFED AHAHAHHAHA https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkYetter/status/1167572279598837760 Uninstalling this trash ass game with trash devs.
: Well i think that's balanced :)
> [{quoted}](name=Hector1MKD,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=pQl2eI8e,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-28T22:29:05.197+0000) > > Well i think that's balanced :) Its URF, Everything is balanced
: Ye, he has very strong lane phase its obvious. Btw, this pluses(instead outhealing) can be said about near all bruisers. Anyway main sense of text is what for i should pick him? All have something special unique mechanics and skills. Yorick splitpush tools and unique ult. Quinn permaroaming. Wu hard engage and deceit. Trynd crazy outheal and ult(very similar to aatrox but atleast have immortal stuff). Urgot has mechanic with legs and other other other. Aatrox had unique thing too. Rebirth. But now its Olaf ult without invulnerabity to control. Also, his teamfights not cool coz high risk with not really suitable reward. Tbh, im not really asking, just some attention from riot to this champion will be nice
> [{quoted}](name=LightningOwl,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=nxoZQzxn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T09:33:09.184+0000) > > Ye, he has very strong lane phase its obvious. Btw, this pluses(instead outhealing) can be said about near all bruisers. Anyway main sense of text is what for i should pick him? All have something special unique mechanics and skills. Yorick splitpush tools and unique ult. Quinn permaroaming. Wu hard engage and deceit. Trynd crazy outheal and ult(very similar to aatrox but atleast have immortal stuff). Urgot has mechanic with legs and other other other. Aatrox had unique thing too. Rebirth. But now its Olaf ult without invulnerabity to control. Also, his teamfights not cool coz high risk with not really suitable reward. > Tbh, im not really asking, just some attention from riot to this champion will be nice Aatrox is good and didn't need his revive to be effective, it only made him overloaded. Now you just have to get in the fights at the right time to wreak havoc.
: I get honored around 2-5 times when I play for 1 or 2 games and I reached the last checkpoint before level 5. Last season I also got level 5. Maybe you are not as honorable as you used to be.
> [{quoted}](name=ShacoMasterRace,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=685hpLl1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-21T12:25:53.526+0000) > > I get honored around 2-5 times when I play for 1 or 2 games and I reached the last checkpoint before level 5. Last season I also got level 5. Maybe you are not as honorable as you used to be. Or my account(s) are just cursed, Because in all of my 4 accounts i didnt get a single checkpoint.
Tarolock (EUNE)
: that happens only if you are toxic, get valid reports on yourself and stuff like that
> [{quoted}](name=Tarolock,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=685hpLl1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-20T12:50:01.042+0000) > > that happens only if you are toxic, get valid reports on yourself and stuff like that If the reports were "valid" i'd drop to honor lvl 1 or 0 pretty likely. And im not "toxic" hence i was honor 5 last season
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: are you regularly honored?
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=685hpLl1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-20T13:46:00.630+0000) > > are you regularly honored? Decently, yeah. Here and there
Rioter Comments
: The rework is so bad it’s a joke, and I’ve Mained panth for 9yrs. Like his problem has always been the all in, he was either all in the enemy and kill them or be killed since you had no escape tool and w was on high cd. Q yes does do decent Damage with the empower but is easy dodged, w doesn’t offer the shield so it’s more risky to jump in, his e has way to high cd and doesn’t do damage and the damage reduction is trash and very easy played around. I don’t even want to talk about how crap his ult is, %%%% me it takes so long to charge up every one already walked away from it and due to the shit animation you can’t engage fast enough to do something. The visual look amazing, the champs combat trash. Instead of being able to block 3 attacks now you can block 1 attack every 22 seconds. Very poor rework. I could play panth into pretty much every match up decently not anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=space caose,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hdBh2fEj,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-08-15T11:42:36.267+0000) > > The rework is so bad it’s a joke, and I’ve Mained panth for 9yrs. Like his problem has always been the all in, he was either all in the enemy and kill them or be killed since you had no escape tool and w was on high cd. Q yes does do decent Damage with the empower but is easy dodged, w doesn’t offer the shield so it’s more risky to jump in, his e has way to high cd and doesn’t do damage and the damage reduction is trash and very easy played around. I don’t even want to talk about how crap his ult is, %%%% me it takes so long to charge up every one already walked away from it and due to the shit animation you can’t engage fast enough to do something. The visual look amazing, the champs combat trash. Instead of being able to block 3 attacks now you can block 1 attack every 22 seconds. Very poor rework. I could play panth into pretty much every match up decently not anymore. Even if you get a few kills in lane, it feels like you are useless as pantheon, while if you were fed as any other toplaner you could faceroll their team. What a shame. His teamfighting purpose is buying some time for your team with your E because you dont do enough damage to kill anybody.
: U tried him midlane ? his q might be enough waveclear to be able to roam and his R helps him with that, not to mention you'll find more burst champs midlane and his e is good againts them, he's also pretty gankable thanks to his point and click stun All of that combined might make him into a decent roaming midlanner that can get his whole team ahead early game, I haven't tried him yet tho so I wouldn't be too sure about it
> [{quoted}](name=Call me Teddy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hdBh2fEj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-14T18:37:34.742+0000) > > U tried him midlane ? his q might be enough waveclear to be able to roam and his R helps him with that, not to mention you'll find more burst champs midlane and his e is good againts them, he's also pretty gankable thanks to his point and click stun > All of that combined might make him into a decent roaming midlanner that can get his whole team ahead early game, I haven't tried him yet tho so I wouldn't be too sure about it He has been played as a support don't ask me why. Budget Pyke maybe? Every pantheon i've seen did as much damage as a support.
: His damage is indeed not that high and it's already been discussed before on the boards. In my opinion, it's better to have "weaker" champion on release and give him a follow up buff to help him that have an overpowered and broken one that will create a mess in all the matches (especially ranked) and then be perma banned for the rest of the patch. Pantheon is still very useful despite not having the craziest damage due to his insane Q range, his point and click stun and his E with 100% damage reduction. Don't forget that he just got released, people are still learning him and didn't master him yet. Don't forget that 1 well timer E means your enemy laner deals 0 damage to you (especially against burst champ) while you'll deal some damage to them. You can keep easily winning trades and then win lane.
> [{quoted}](name=Doom emissary,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hdBh2fEj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-14T18:27:53.553+0000) > > His damage is indeed not that high and it's already been discussed before on the boards. > > In my opinion, it's better to have "weaker" champion on release and give him a follow up buff to help him that have an overpowered and broken one that will create a mess in all the matches (especially ranked) and then be perma banned for the rest of the patch. > > Pantheon is still very useful despite not having the craziest damage due to his insane Q range, his point and click stun and his E with 100% damage reduction. > > Don't forget that he just got released, people are still learning him and didn't master him yet. > > Don't forget that 1 well timer E means your enemy laner deals 0 damage to you (especially against burst champ) while you'll deal some damage to them. You can keep easily winning trades and then win lane. When does Pantheon shine. Early , mid or lategame? As far as i know he is average at most in every stage of the game. Yes he can block damage with E, but you are not doing damage either while using it. The health bars barely move when he uses it. Also, Most toplaners have dashes, they will just get behind you are run you down since you have no stats to all in.
: good if his damage is low that's good because he's now safer than ever and more forgiving to play immunity to damage when it was just autos larger ult hitbox and larger q range why in the hell would you give a champion like this more damage??
> [{quoted}](name=Luther King Jr V,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=hdBh2fEj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-14T18:14:09.019+0000) > > good if his damage is low that's good because he's now safer than ever and more forgiving to play > immunity to damage when it was just autos > larger ult hitbox and larger q range > > why in the hell would you give a champion like this more damage?? He is being played as a support... His immunity to damage isn't as good as you think unless you are dumb enough to waste all your Cd's on that. His "Larger Q range" Is negated by the fact it does wet toilet paper damage if they are behind their minion wave. You should only use Hold Q if you want to execute someone, poking with it is not worth it. tap Q refunds 50% of the CD and does full damage to everyone. He is "Safer" to play? How come? His E is only 1 Direction, Most champions have dashes to get around it and he doesn't get free blocks anymore. Sorry but he is far from "Safer". You will see in a few hours / days on how he will get hotfixed buffed. Mark my words.
Rioter Comments
CJXander (EUNE)
: I'm finally there again!
i was Honor 5 last season, Since the reset of this season i wasn't able to make progress somehow..
: https://pics.me.me/riots-art-team-riots-balance-team-thought-this-front-page-45824741.png
> [{quoted}](name=Kitty Girl,realm=EUW,application-id=yTagKVTg,discussion-id=fBKuEb7b,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-06T21:35:29.435+0000) > > https://pics.me.me/riots-art-team-riots-balance-team-thought-this-front-page-45824741.png Thats funny as hell haha
: Why not? She is a good answer to Kled and toplane needs something to handle Kled.
> [{quoted}](name=HIVSuperposition,realm=EUW,application-id=yTagKVTg,discussion-id=fBKuEb7b,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-06T21:30:26.719+0000) > > Why not? She is a good answer to Kled and toplane needs something to handle Kled. Ban kled, easy game. Fiora is already overstat'd as %%%%.
: Wait... that buff is not that useful.
> [{quoted}](name=HIVSuperposition,realm=EUW,application-id=yTagKVTg,discussion-id=fBKuEb7b,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-06T21:16:52.849+0000) > > Wait... that buff is not that useful. Usefull or not, on what kind of planet would someone buff Fiora x D
Rioter Comments
: Riot thinks they do i guess. Imo fiora is only strong because her kit is overloaded.
> [{quoted}](name=Emperor Talquin,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vpQOZoRY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-04T19:30:29.344+0000) > > Riot thinks they do i guess. > > Imo fiora is only strong because her kit is overloaded. They overstat'd her a while ago but her parry shouldn't reduce atack speed, She gets rewarded for mistiming it which is kinda bullshit.
SANEakaIN (EUW)
: They are not weak champions even early game but are weaker than say a Renekton {{champion:58}} , who is a early game champion that falls off late game. They are not weak per se, but not as powerful as proper early game champions.
> [{quoted}](name=SANEakaIN,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=vpQOZoRY,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-04T19:30:49.047+0000) > > They are not weak champions even early game but are weaker than say a Renekton {{champion:58}} , who is a early game champion that falls off late game. > They are not weak per se, but not as powerful as proper early game champions. They are not as strong as renekton as in your example, but they can pull it off and manage to win quite easily. Usually if they survive the 1st 4 levels with a good amount of health they can %%%% you up after.
Rioter Comments
: Krugs are a good way to heal up between camps , provides vision and map control. Not to mention roam potential for mid laners. Also good way to secure a win in tf or escape while doing drake and baron. Only low elo people hate krugs.
> [{quoted}](name=WINRARtrial4Life,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mn98oBze,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-31T23:26:12.377+0000) > > Krugs are a good way to heal up between camps , provides vision and map control. Not to mention roam potential for mid laners. Also good way to secure a win in tf or escape while doing drake and baron. Only low elo people hate krugs. Are you really mistaking Krugs over scuttle crab? I giggled If you were high elo you would know that Krugs are the golems. oh well.
: > The Hp is not the issue, THE TIME IT TAKES makes me wanna kms lol u must be 12 yr old {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
> [{quoted}](name=WINRARtrial4Life,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mn98oBze,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-31T23:28:31.072+0000) > > lol u must be 12 yr old {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} 20 actually
: Actually krugs give by far the most experience, they give from 267 to 420 xp while every other camp gives from 165 to 230 xp (up to 280 for crab)
> [{quoted}](name=Call me Teddy,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mn98oBze,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-31T22:46:41.905+0000) > > Actually krugs give by far the most experience, they give from 267 to 420 xp while every other camp gives from 165 to 230 xp (up to 280 for crab) Considering the time you take to kill that hell camp.. it should give way more. Usually i just ignore that shit and go gank, because i've no patience to stay there for 40 seconds doing that crap
: well its life buddy . its not same with all champs . anyway if u can move AA then again move AA *u can save more HP* just practice . did u ever wondered how high elos get red with losing low amount of hp ??
> [{quoted}](name=l kataclysm l,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mn98oBze,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-31T22:32:20.929+0000) > > well its life buddy . its not same with all champs . anyway if u can move AA then again move AA *u can save more HP* just practice . did u ever wondered how high elos get red with losing low amount of hp ?? The Hp is not the issue, THE TIME IT TAKES makes me wanna kms
Rioter Comments
: Opinions on frosties malphite ?
Wait, Do you take aftershock on malph? A Rune that only works when you ult is kinda trash. Back to the topic, Now that i think about it, Glacial with randuins would be a sick lockdown to everyone you ult, But your laning phase would suck so much without comet or grasp tbh.
: Let's talk about Tryndamere (read before you downvote)
Tryndamere is shit and you want to nerf him? All you have to do is bully him hard before he starts ramping up fury and he will be forced to heal. Dont let him get fury for free. Most tryndamere's will only try to fight above 50% fury. If you can outstat tryndamere you win since his kit is pretty simple.
: DEMONBLADE TRYNDAMERE SUCKS
Once tryndamere gets a rework it will be updated... Until then, well, better sit tight.
KokoakoCube (EUNE)
: Team Fight Tactics (Garen and Varus)
When Garen spins he is immune to spelldamage
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: https://imgur.com/tOat8ba man i don't know what to tell you i can't teach you how to play the matchup but garen is a counter to vladimir i will share with you 2 things your W negates 60% of vlads burst your Q is good enough to force his pool or he will take bad trades every time
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=21cOXZ0Y,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-25T19:08:10.077+0000) > > https://imgur.com/tOat8ba man i don't know what to tell you > i can't teach you how to play the matchup > but garen is a counter to vladimir > > i will share with you 2 things > your W negates 60% of vlads burst > your Q is good enough to force his pool or he will take bad trades every time I don't know what to tell you. Do you know what high elo is? It's not some gold trash elo games where the players have no clue what they are doing. If a high elo player does not know how to play against a garen with such a basic kit, then they are really boosted and shouldn't be there in the 1st place.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: no they are quite relevant especially since vladimir loses lane to everything if he is gimping himself with klepto that means he doesn't even have an escape if you couldn't abuse the absolute shit out of him then you should buy some coaching lessons or maybe just don't buy diamond accounts?
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=21cOXZ0Y,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-25T18:48:39.870+0000) > > no they are quite relevant > especially since vladimir loses lane to everything > if he is gimping himself with klepto that means he doesn't even have an escape > if you couldn't abuse the absolute shit out of him then you should buy some coaching lessons or maybe just don't buy diamond accounts? You are quite a person, Expecting me to punish a vlad by playing garen. Talking shit before checking the matchup. That's a next level of stupidity. OH just dont pick garen against vlad. What if i like to play garen, and what if i firstpicked him. Go buy some common sense lessons. Probably another klepto abuser, lame duck.
: I checked your history, and i see you played against vlad quite a bit, but most of them had PHASE RUSH, and only ONE had klepto. You lost against him, so its automatically OP, coz there is no possible way you got outplayed.
> [{quoted}](name=Super Hooker,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=21cOXZ0Y,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-25T18:15:24.789+0000) > > I checked your history, and i see you played against vlad quite a bit, but most of them had PHASE RUSH, and only ONE had klepto. > > You lost against him, so its automatically OP, coz there is no possible way you got outplayed. Outplayed by what? Him basic atacking me? We were both 0/0/0 and he had 800 gold lead by 15 min mark because of klepto. Well since i was garen i could't really punish that but thats really %%%%ing stupid design.
: no its not THE problem. its part of the problem, but ranged tops in general are realy Mistake from riot clepto is just the cherry on top.
> [{quoted}](name=One Dunk Man,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=21cOXZ0Y,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-25T13:02:05.635+0000) > > no its not THE problem. > its part of the problem, but ranged tops in general are realy Mistake from riot > clepto is just the cherry on top. Can't stop people from picking ranged toplaners, Most ranged toplaners being played were meant to be midlane/adc/supp
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: who ever takes klepto on vladimir is inting https://euw.op.gg/champion/vladimir/statistics/top/rune no it's not a massive advantage he is missing a keystone that has the potential to far outperform that item component very bad comparison an accurate comparison would be your opponent got a bow and a chain vest and you got a bow while both of you going sorcs
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=21cOXZ0Y,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-25T12:58:41.963+0000) > > who ever takes klepto on vladimir is inting > https://euw.op.gg/champion/vladimir/statistics/top/rune > > no it's not a massive advantage he is missing a keystone that has the potential to far outperform that item component > > very bad comparison > an accurate comparison would be your opponent got a bow and a chain vest and you got a bow while both of you going sorcs Yeah apparently the vlad i faced in Diamond/Masters elo taking klepto ( where i took that screenshot ) is inting. Statistics are quite irrelevant.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: he didn't get xp he didn't get the usual level lead he didn't deny you from that xp so that random 900 gold means he bought 1 item more than you 1/3rd of a completed item now is that 1/3rd of a completed item worth him missing the offensive output or defensive output he could have had otherwise by going something else? comet aery ele phase rush conq w/e would have had at a minimum twice the effectiveness of klepto klepto wasn't good because of the gold klepto was good because of the potions later in the game those potions compensated for the lack of a keystone not the 1300 gold he got from farming you
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=21cOXZ0Y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-25T12:25:35.053+0000) > > he didn't get xp > he didn't get the usual level lead > he didn't deny you from that xp > > so that random 900 gold means he bought 1 item more than you > 1/3rd of a completed item > > now is that 1/3rd of a completed item worth him missing the offensive output or defensive output he could have had otherwise by going something else? > > comet aery ele phase rush conq w/e would have had at a minimum twice the effectiveness of klepto > > klepto wasn't good because of the gold > klepto was good because of the potions later in the game > those potions compensated for the lack of a keystone > not the 1300 gold he got from farming you Champions who used to take Phase rush no longer grab that shit, instead they go Klepto, Now take a guess why. {{champion:8}} {{champion:85}} Are 2 common examples. Why would they take Phase rush in the 1st place if their opponent cant kill them, Why would they take comet if they cant push someone out of lane, Why would they take something else besides Klepto which is no risk high reward. 1/3rd of an item compared to none is a massive advantage. Lets take the example of TFT here, What would happen if everyone else got 5 items early on and you got none? You would get smacked. Edit: Gold is the best offensive or defensive output you can have, and it makes sense. You use the gold to buy shit.
Rioter Comments
Atlas (EUNE)
: "Your rank doesn't matter because I said so"
Im masters, i play garen from times to times and the enemy toplaner usually shit talks me for playing a no brain champion, even tho garen is easily predictable and meant to be "trash" in high elo. I just laugh on that ocasions.
: TFT - Nerf certain combos
6 Noble is not a big issue if you have a Sorcery comp, You literally smack that.
: Demacia Vice skins
Bump, Would like to know aswell.
: What the hell riot :D do i hafto cry and wipe it off with the negatron cloaks?
: Kayn small change would love it .
"He feels so clumsy if he falls behind", Well... Don't fall behind.. That applies to almost every champion.
: Garen ult reset
You can't dodge garen ult, well technically you can, but it will not go on cooldown. Same way as Darius R.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Vaanss,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qWTPnprb,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-06T21:59:49.225+0000) > > Seems a really high amount of shielding to be fair, considering the items he buys are mostly hp items. > Although a Grey health indicator would be nice to keep track of it. He can't just shield out of nowhere (it's 30% of damage he deals + 15% of damage he takes; 25% effectiveness versus non champs) and he has a 14 second cooldown on it. It is also a exponentially decaying shield, so it shreds itself really fast if you kite him.
> [{quoted}](name=Bananenschnder,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qWTPnprb,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-06T22:04:26.138+0000) > > He can't just shield out of nowhere (it's 30% of damage he deals + 15% of damage he takes; 25% effectiveness versus non champs) and he has a 14 second cooldown on it. It is also a exponentially decaying shield, so it shreds itself really fast if you kite him. I do realize he cant shield out of nowhere, but after laning phase he can stack his shield really damn fast
: > [{quoted}](name=Vaanss,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qWTPnprb,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-06T21:51:09.983+0000) > > Does it even show the amount of shield? Because the white bar by itself means the maximum shield he can get, yet i've no clue what that amount is. Maximum amount is 30% of his maximum HP (minimum 5%). So a full bar amounts to 30% of his max HP as a shield.
> [{quoted}](name=Bananenschnder,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qWTPnprb,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-06T21:54:23.413+0000) > > Maximum amount is 30% of his maximum HP (minimum 5%). So a full bar amounts to 30% of his max HP as a shield. Seems a really high amount of shielding to be fair, considering the items he buys are mostly hp items. Although a Grey health indicator would be nice to keep track of it.
raiskader (EUW)
: If some people don't see it, it means the visual feedback is not effective enough
> [{quoted}](name=raiskader,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qWTPnprb,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-06T21:51:29.088+0000) > > If some people don't see it, it means the visual feedback is not effective enough ^ This is what i mean, Mordekaiser can see the value he will get, the others cant. :/
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