: 14 Days banned
Anyway, thank you all for your input, I am not gonna reply anymore futher. Furthermore, it really made me re-think what is wrong with people in this community. People view on issues only on the surface but never go in deep and understand the full picture of the story. There are many toxic people in the world but not all of them are the normal flamers. I really tried hard to be nice but the taunting from people made me went the wrong path for a while. Also comments for you WildcardHs, you seems to know how to break down people's chat log and pointing out toxicity but only focusing on small details is never good for you. You have to try and stop your "pretending" to be judge. That makes you feel good somehow I understand but it is not good for you.
: lol, you flame someone with sexist shit because they are annoyed and react bad and you call that raping? Serious, dude (I mean you are either a dud or a woman with not a single fucking shart of empathy. You will know somebody who was raped unless you live in a fucking hut somewhere in a russian forrest. So like either say you got flamed, somebody was mean to you or whatever. But being raped is it only if that person is next to you, forcing themselves inside of you by using either force or getting you intoxicated so you fear for your fucking life.. Getting a bit rude with words.. definitely not rape.. Its pretty sad I have to tell you that shit. should be obvious...) ugh this careless using of words is like.. I thing i have puke in my mouth. Yeah, good that you got penalized. Sad you didn't learn a bit as it seems. Its somehow almost always the same.. People like you flame, use ableist or sexist words (or homophobic or racist shit..yeah, people can be great sometimes..) but the same toxic assholes cry and whine when they get a splash of their own toxic sludge. Either you can take what you dish out or not, but you can act like that buy whine that other people did the same.. And if you are the one who could take such shitty behavior- **take it somewhere else. Somewhere, where people want it**. That means: **not here..** Go on reddit or to 4chan..
> [{quoted}](name=Pantalaêmon,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=X3Jcyn6J,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2015-07-19T14:20:06.786+0000) > > lol, you flame someone with sexist shit because they are annoyed and react bad and you call that raping? > > Serious, dude (I mean you are either a dud or a woman with not a single fucking shart of empathy. You will know somebody who was raped unless you live in a fucking hut somewhere in a russian forrest. So like either say you got flamed, somebody was mean to you or whatever. But being raped is it only if that person is next to you, forcing themselves inside of you by using either force or getting you intoxicated so you fear for your fucking life.. Getting a bit rude with words.. definitely not rape.. Its pretty sad I have to tell you that shit. should be obvious...) > > ugh this careless using of words is like.. I thing i have puke in my mouth. Yeah, good that you got penalized. > Sad you didn't learn a bit as it seems. > > > Its somehow almost always the same.. People like you flame, use ableist or sexist words (or homophobic or racist shit..yeah, people can be great sometimes..) but the same toxic assholes cry and whine when they get a splash of their own toxic sludge. > > Either you can take what you dish out or not, but you can act like that buy whine that other people did the same.. > > And if you are the one who could take such shitty behavior- **take it somewhere else. Somewhere, where people want it**. That means: **not here..** Go on reddit or to 4chan.. Again, I am here not to validate my toxicity. And I wonder did you even look at the chat and read? So crying like a girl is a sexist to you. Hmm maybe it's my mistake coz I really didnt mean that. And I dont think woman are that weak, just their crying is stronger than man
: > When you look at the whole convo... **STOP!** This is not a vigilante state that you own, you don't have a right under any circumstance to get negative or verbally abusive with other individuals playing this game **PERIOD**. You're there to play a game and do your best to win that game, if someone isn't doing that and breaking the summoners code **it's RIOTS job to deal with them, NOT YOURS**. If me and you are at a bar, we've both never been to, and you'll never see me again, and I talk shit, or say something that offends you, or spills a drink on you... what you gunna do? Start a fight? **No, because it'll end up with both of us in the hospital at best, and at worst just one of us**. You'll back off, think I'm a moron and rightfully so, go about your evening and then never see me again. You're making excuses to try and validate being an ass, that's all that you have proven right there. You're a **HUGE** part of the problem if you think for a split second that any of what you have said is justifiable under any circumstances. You have 2 rights... a right to mute them, and a right to report them. **That's all, it's up to Riot to punish those who break the summoners code.** I don't care about the whole convo, I can tell a lot more about the ban from your behaviour alone than by anything else, and what I see is someone who is toxic, trying to validate them being a moron. > So are you suggesting that you should not mention anything negative at all in game? I'm "suggesting" you act like a decent human being, and realise you're there to play a game, not to get into a flame war and call people "kid" and be sexist towards women, which is what you're doing. I'm suggesting you start respecting the people in this community that you play with, even if they're a moron. But most of all **I'm suggesting you follow the damn rules that you agree to, every single time you update the damn game!** Is that so hard? > So when people flame you, you should just type thank you for your comment. Mute them, report them and move on. I don't care if you get angry behind the screen, what I care about is when you get angry in the chat. If you wanna yell something, yell at the screen, or punch a pillow, but do not bring toxic chat into the League chat room, especially when you're playing. Because unless you can type with your feet and have 2 keyboards and run software to differentiate what's a gaming input and what's typing, **you shouldn't be typing anything that's not vitally important to the game anyway!** It's a game... if I wanted your opinion, I'd ask for it... **OR GO ONTO THE FORUM where people can post their opinion.** NOT IN A LEAGUE GAME. Sorry, but this is the only way I feel I can get it through to you.
> [{quoted}](name=Wildcardhs,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=X3Jcyn6J,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2015-07-19T14:19:47.980+0000) > > **STOP!** > > This is not a vigilante state that you own, you don't have a right under any circumstance to get negative or verbally abusive with other individuals playing this game **PERIOD**. You're there to play a game and do your best to win that game, if someone isn't doing that and breaking the summoners code **it's RIOTS job to deal with them, NOT YOURS**. > > If me and you are at a bar, we've both never been to, and you'll never see me again, and I talk shit, or say something that offends you, or spills a drink on you... what you gunna do? Start a fight? **No, because it'll end up with both of us in the hospital at best, and at worst just one of us**. You'll back off, think I'm a moron and rightfully so, go about your evening and then never see me again. > > You're making excuses to try and validate being an ass, that's all that you have proven right there. You're a **HUGE** part of the problem if you think for a split second that any of what you have said is justifiable under any circumstances. > > You have 2 rights... a right to mute them, and a right to report them. **That's all, it's up to Riot to punish those who break the summoners code.** > > I don't care about the whole convo, I can tell a lot more about the ban from your behaviour alone than by anything else, and what I see is someone who is toxic, trying to validate them being a moron. > > I'm "suggesting" you act like a decent human being, and realise you're there to play a game, not to get into a flame war and call people "kid" and be sexist towards women, which is what you're doing. I'm suggesting you start respecting the people in this community that you play with, even if they're a moron. > > But most of all **I'm suggesting you follow the damn rules that you agree to, every single time you update the damn game!** Is that so hard? > > Mute them, report them and move on. I don't care if you get angry behind the screen, what I care about is when you get angry in the chat. If you wanna yell something, yell at the screen, or punch a pillow, but do not bring toxic chat into the League chat room, especially when you're playing. > > Because unless you can type with your feet and have 2 keyboards and run software to differentiate what's a gaming input and what's typing, **you shouldn't be typing anything that's not vitally important to the game anyway!** It's a game... if I wanted your opinion, I'd ask for it... **OR GO ONTO THE FORUM where people can post their opinion.** NOT IN A LEAGUE GAME. > > Sorry, but this is the only way I feel I can get it through to you. Totally thank you for your input. Rules are for people to follow, but the rules and rulers itselves have a problem, what should you do? Follow the rules till the end of the day? Clearly I understand what person you are and what you are trying to say. And you are viewing me as someone want to validate my toxicity but clearly I am not trying that. The point I would like to address is the problem of the tribunal review is unfair and not perfect. Clearly the other party did not get banned because he is still in game. If people keep following the rules without trying to improve it when there is a problem. We are just nothing but robots.
: Okay so let's break this down... this is not an exhaustive list, this is an example... that's the first thing you need to understand. Now let's go through the post and fulfill what Riot says to see if it's valid. "Here are some chat logs that were identified as negative by other players in the community." Being that I am a member of the community, let's have a look and see what is negative, shall we? ------------------------------------------------------- > play like a girl Sexist much? > firstly, i dun adc, secondly, you should've warded when you see ignite shen on their team, thirdly you should've watch mini map That seems pretty negative to me, making excuses and getting into an arguement with someone's never positive. > im afk Well that right there is pretty damn negative. Saying you're going to AFK and ruin everyones game. > such a kid This... 100 times this, what the heck do you think calling someone a kid does? This is a core example of being toxic. > you keep complaining for what > you did great? > 0/2/0? > come on > cry more Cry more? You're mocking someones ability to play the game, this is very negative. > are you elo boosted? Right because implying someone belongs in Bronze isn't an insult, right? End sarcasm. > grow up pls You too buddy, you too. That again is a huge example of toxic behaviour. > ok add me on fb > see who has higher education > such a kid Firstly, considering your typing skills I think between you and I, we've already established the level of education. And again, calling someone a kid, repeatedly is toxic. > one roaming shen and you guys cry like a girl Sexist much? Also toxic. > just surrender, this shyv blames alot and without warding himself This is generally negative, and what does it contribute? > all elo boosted? Again with the implication of Bronze insult? > stop forcing sth like that stupid Since when did calling your team mates stupid not warrant being negative and toxic? > nvm you main support, i wont blame you I don't think you meant this in a positive way, probably blaming for a lack of mechanics, so 90% sure this is toxic. > wp shen, you literally made 2 kid rage and blame lol Again with the kid comment... seriously, calling someone a kid is what 12 year olds use to insult people. ---------------------------------------------- Now let me quote you from another forum reply: > Just got banned too for 14 days and I am the one being flamed and got banned. I am trying to reason with the other player. You're a liar too then? You're not trying to reason with anyone, you're being **toxic as hell**. Enjoy your ban, ban 100% deserved. Prove me wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=Wildcardhs,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=X3Jcyn6J,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-07-19T13:59:10.451+0000) > > Okay so let's break this down... this is not an exhaustive list, this is an example... that's the first thing you need to understand. > > Now let's go through the post and fulfill what Riot says to see if it's valid. > > "Here are some chat logs that were identified as negative by other players in the community." > > Being that I am a member of the community, let's have a look and see what is negative, shall we? > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Sexist much? > > That seems pretty negative to me, making excuses and getting into an arguement with someone's never positive. > > Well that right there is pretty damn negative. Saying you're going to AFK and ruin everyones game. > > This... 100 times this, what the heck do you think calling someone a kid does? This is a core example of being toxic. > > Cry more? You're mocking someones ability to play the game, this is very negative. > > Right because implying someone belongs in Bronze isn't an insult, right? End sarcasm. > > You too buddy, you too. That again is a huge example of toxic behaviour. > > Firstly, considering your typing skills I think between you and I, we've already established the level of education. And again, calling someone a kid, repeatedly is toxic. > > Sexist much? Also toxic. > > This is generally negative, and what does it contribute? > > Again with the implication of Bronze insult? > > Since when did calling your team mates stupid not warrant being negative and toxic? > > I don't think you meant this in a positive way, probably blaming for a lack of mechanics, so 90% sure this is toxic. > > Again with the kid comment... seriously, calling someone a kid is what 12 year olds use to insult people. > > ---------------------------------------------- > > Now let me quote you from another forum reply: > > You're a liar too then? You're not trying to reason with anyone, you're being **toxic as hell**. Enjoy your ban, ban 100% deserved. Prove me wrong. It is alright when you are looking at this point of view. Totally understand a bystander's view is like that, that is why the tribunal reviewed the case like this. When you look at the whole convo but it's "privacy"due to riot game, and you will understand how much flaming came from the other player. Problem is the other player did not get banned. So are you suggesting that you should not mention anything negative at all in game? So when people flame you, you should just type thank you for your comment, I will try to understand your concern. Thank you again. Thats clearly my mistake if thats the case. Ban deserved. YEAH! The problem of breaking down is to prove toxicity present. I clearly admit that part. My major concern is the other party was not banned and by retaliation means both party should be punished. Another point is Tribunal review should not focus on single point toxicity but the general view of the case. Just like courts in reality does not review clearly on reaction of the victim. For example, if A raped B, and the court focused on B's reaction (by hitting A's head or cutting A's arm), which you are doing and pretend you understand and point out the toxicity part, this is not the point of the case, but viewing A raped B, leads to reaction of B. That is what Im try to discuss for the tribunal review.
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. The reform card shows clear evidence of toxic behaviour. Please don't use the excuse "he started it", because we're not in kindergarten. You are punished based on what **you** do. It even says so clearly in the mail you got: > As a community, we also don't believe that retaliation is an appropriate response, so in cases where there is retaliation, both players receive penalties. --- If people bother you: mute them, and report them when the game is over. Once you start retaliating, you are not better yourself.
> [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=X3Jcyn6J,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-19T13:47:51.822+0000) > > Greetings. > > The reform card shows clear evidence of toxic behaviour. Please don't use the excuse "he started it", because we're not in kindergarten. You are punished based on what **you** do. > > It even says so clearly in the mail you got: > --- > > If people bother you: mute them, and report them when the game is over. > > Once you start retaliating, you are not better yourself. That pose a problem that raping is punishable and you should not defend yourself from it. You should just agree and ignore? That is why I bring up to discuss and have tribunal to review itself
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ceMent (EUW)
: Got 14 days ban, because other guy was trolling.
Totally understand you. Just got banned too for 14 days and I am the one being flamed and got banned. I am trying to reason with the other player. So basically the shyvana on my team got ganked at level 1 by support + jungler and shout at bottom why we didn't call miss. Firstly, we did call miss. Secondly I am the one filled the ADC position and I main top. I gave up my role to my team and still I got banned. I am totally frustrated about the tribunal review and would like them to think about what is happening to the tribunal reviewing team.
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