Hansiman (EUNE)
: Why? I don't use 3rd party programs to cheat, so why should I be banned?
YasuoDude (EUW)
: What a comeback....of course it's still money, but the amount doesn't mean you can just ignore the rules, no amount of spend cash will make you immune.
I'm not saying i don't deserve to be punished by riot but what i an saying i've spent money and now it is just all gone with my account.. i am not saying i shouldn't get a ban
Perilum (EUW)
: No you didn't bought the game. You have a contract with Riot and they gave you a licence to use. The account is property of Riot. Put please, go and sue Riot games on a civil court in the USA. You've to bring the money first for all the court costs btw. Just keep that in mind. And if you lose, this money is lost. And when you guys create a account, you sign a contract. You should read them. This whole court case would last exactly 5 min. And there is a non existing chance to win this case. Please read the T&A and stop giving people "advice", if you don't know how the law position is here.
You are the one who's giving me advice to go ahead and sue them... just stop with his sue sht i am over it i am playing league again on another normal account it's done...
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fX3aLfRV,comment-id=00030001000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-03T01:22:44.886+0000) > > This is a game, and we have rules that everyone has to follow. Rules which you decided you didn't have to take part in. > > Why should Riot keep allowing you to play the game when you can't respect the rules? If thats the case, why did that singed player get banned? he didnt do anything wrong, if thats the case, how come meteos isnt getting banned ? if thats the case, why is there a surrender button if "giving up" is reportable? if thats the case, why didnt the owner of riot who attacked that dude on twitter have any punishment on his ass? u see, riot is rigged as fuck. they can whatever the fuck they want without looking at rules BUT if we do something THATS WITHIN THE RULES they can STILL BAN US. Riots policy sucks and so does the game. thats quite unfortunate tho. and as u can see he said he used it but it was an accident, giving someone a pretty much life time ban because they think its oke, riot is even this shit that they are known by players who dont even play this game as a shit game. how sad can u be.
Well i just agree what you're saying
: The money you spend was "wasted" the second you bought RP. I mean at some point (in the future) Riot will shut down the servers and everyone which invested a lot of money has no access to all the stuff any more. We are talking about virtual items which is always "a waste" since you can't sell it or have any really important use off.
Can't argue about that league won't last long after 120 champs... at least i think it won't
YasuoDude (EUW)
: http://prntscr.com/dr1ma9 200 doesn't mean anything, neither does 800.
It is still money
Enjutsu (EUNE)
: you have 7000 years to reform.
That's nothin right
Perilum (EUW)
: You can only charge back in 14 days after the purchase. Beside that is a contract violation. If he would charge back a certain sum, Riot can legally sue him for that money.
Sue me for? if i paid for something i can't get there is no sense for them to sue me
: I honestly don't understand why you think spending money makes you above the rules.
Take a one wild guess😉
: They can't really prevent you doing it, if its through PayPal you'll probably get away with it, if its through debit you wont, if it's credit you might get away with a small amount if you lay it on thick. As a completely innocent bystander I can't encourage such behaviour ;)
I mostly bought rp through paypal soo we'll see. Thanks fo letting me know
: Chargebackapalooza
Will they actually charge me back?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: I'm not sure what else I can tell you. You used a 3rd party program, got caught, got banned. It doesn't matter how much money you've spent, because Riot treats every player equally, and they don't provide special treatment to those who pay for stuff. If you didn't want to risk losing your account, you should have made sure that what you were doing was ok.
Noooooo riot doesn't treat everyone equally if they do this kinda stuff... i thought this company is not a low level punks but i guess i was wrong
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > I didn't know i will get banned for it jesus christ. That's never an excuse. In the real world, do you think you'd be allowed to commit crimes by saying you didn't know that it was illegal? Ofcourse not. Besides, you've accepted the terms which means that you have accepted that you won't use any 3rd party programs. --- > and it is insane from riots point to steal my money from me They haven't stolen anything. --- > It seems like you really want to work for riot I don't. I'm perfectly fine being a community volunteer.
So it is okay that i've spent over 200€ on the game and not getting my moneys worth somethin?? What do you call that then
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > Well i told you it was an accident that i used mklol You made a choice to install a 3rd party program. That wasn't an accident. --- > but this is just insane that they ban my account for a lifetime It isn't. Riot needs to maintain the competitive integrity of their game. By using programs that enable you to cheat in the game, you are violating this integrity, and as such aren't welcome.
I didn't know i will get banned for it jesus christ. and it is insane from riots point to steal my money from me (legit) It seems like you really want to work for riot... raminkis
Hansiman (EUNE)
: This is a game, and we have rules that everyone has to follow. Rules which you decided you didn't have to take part in. Why should Riot keep allowing you to play the game when you can't respect the rules?
So you're saying i should just give up on sht loads of money and walk away like nothin? I am suprised none of rioters still haven't seen this post this is just pathetic
PsyZeemok (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=energyDZN,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fX3aLfRV,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-01-02T22:22:57.491+0000) > > Banned until 9001 February 22 > This is just sad... > So much money spent > so much time into this game > this acc just had everything i needed still it is Riot games and i think i won't be done with league. And i dont care what you will think now. I won't play normally now. Gg I dont understand, you were bronze in s6, no reason for you to flame in that elo, should be easy enough to get out. Dunno why, but most perma banned players are bronze or silver (worrying trend).
Well if you think i am one of those bronze: run it down, kys %%%got or any bs ... i am not one of those i usually played chill and tried to keep team together but whatever your point is?
Hansiman (EUNE)
: This is a game, and we have rules that everyone has to follow. Rules which you decided you didn't have to take part in. Why should Riot keep allowing you to play the game when you can't respect the rules?
Well i told you it was an accident that i used mklol and i take full responsibility but this is just insane that they ban my account for a lifetime
Hansiman (EUNE)
: You can, but I seriously don't see you having a case. You've agreed to not use any 3rd party tools, and you used 3rd party tools. You'd most likely just end up using far more money for something you're not going to win anyway.
Dude but this is a god damn game and riot should unserstand that a lot of players get banned. This is just stealing of money right here in this scenario... this ain't right here
: I would contact riotgames and see what u did wrong, becus if u used real money in game u have parshally bought the game and thay have no autorasation to ban youre acount unless it says somewhere when u click apsect when u create the acount. if it does not show there and thay refuse to refund youre money then u should have full right to sue the company for thevery and something, dont reamember the english word for it.
Well can i sue them tho? You know it is all Riot Games and they will just fuck around with their rules... even tho i legit used at least over 100€ maybe 200€ i could try to
: > [{quoted}](name=energyDZN,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fX3aLfRV,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-02T23:16:44.795+0000) > > Yes of course... > so they will not give me my money back or anythin kike that. That is a FACT about riot... they just need money they dont care about people mistakes i mean, i dont know what they care about and what they dont care about, however, you should of known better. mklol has been bannable for years now and it was a very public talk with riot that informed us it is bannable. you should of done research into what you were getting into before using the program.
And i play JUST for a year
energyDZN (EUW)
: Yup. I am officially done. I knew it was my mistake i was really hoping i could move on but i am just salty af now i will not play in the same way i did being nice to everyone lets go hehe xd
Come on guys just go play league cos at least you can enjoy playing on your main account. I cant and i wont be the same player. Promise
: > [{quoted}](name=energyDZN,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fX3aLfRV,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-02T23:04:07.801+0000) > > So this is gonna sound dumb. I created something but he thing i created does not belong to me > thing (account) as per the terms of service, you do not own your account, riot owns your account and allows you access to it up until whenever they decide to revoke said access from you. there is no need for them to provide reason for revoking access from accounts for people. but they usually do.
Yes of course... so they will not give me my money back or anythin kike that. That is a FACT about riot... they just need money they dont care about people mistakes
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Technically you didn't create the account either. You entered in information on the signup site and requested Riot to make that account for you. You should read the Terms of Use. You have accepted them on multiple occassions. It explains everything you need to know.
Yup. I am officially done. I knew it was my mistake i was really hoping i could move on but i am just salty af now i will not play in the same way i did being nice to everyone lets go hehe xd
Hansiman (EUNE)
: > you pay for smething to what is completely yours Actually, that isn't the case here. The account does not belong to you, it belongs to Riot Games. You're merely granted temporary access to the account for as long as you uphold the ToU, or the game remains available to play. It's more like you're renting the content, not purchasing it.
So this is gonna sound dumb. I created something but he thing i created does not belong to me thing (account)
energyDZN (EUW)
: Maybe they shouldn't have came up with the lifeban system... is that really fair tbh? When you spend a lot of money into the game and the game doesn't let you play it anymore for life
Think of it as a real life situation :you pay for smething to what is completely yours and to have and then when u pay everythin u dont get the thing
Hansiman (EUNE)
: There isn't I'm afraid. Riot has to remain adamant, and treat everyone equally. If they unban you, they're giving you special treatment that they would not offer anyone else. Would that be fair?
Maybe they shouldn't have came up with the lifeban system... is that really fair tbh? When you spend a lot of money into the game and the game doesn't let you play it anymore for life
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Yep i got banned for it. I fully take my responsibility but this doesn't change anything now... not getting my account back
Hansiman (EUNE)
: I'm afraid not. You can send in a ticket to support, but I'm quite confident that they'd give you the exact same response as I have.
Well... time to join in my buddies #reformedDesra #hehexd. Just as i said i won't quit league... about the changing my way of playing is still unknown because as i said that account had almost everything i needed
Hansiman (EUNE)
: And there we go: It was MKJogo / MKLoL. It's a program that has been specifically mentioned on so many occasions by Riot that you are not allowed to use. There's been so much talk about this program getting people banned. =/
So i have NO HOPE of getting my account back?
: I am sorry for you loss. Dont do the same mistake next time.
I won't. but still if there was any hope i can get my account back being ALIVE it would still be for the best... they can ban me for a year but not for life... but it is riot rules sooo
: > [{quoted}](name=energyDZN,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fX3aLfRV,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2017-01-02T22:31:02.673+0000) > > It was a program MKLOL or somethin. I think it had jungle timers too but im not sure about that one yes, MKLOL has jungle timers, it also results in a lifetime ban regardless of you using the jungle timers or not. sucks you had to find out this way, there are skin swapping programs out there that dont get you banned. you just have to be careful that they dont do anything else besides swapping skins.
Yeah... well i won't use any programs in league anymore.
: > [{quoted}](name=Hansiman,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=fX3aLfRV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-02T22:27:38.776+0000) > > There's an absolute zero tolerance for using 3rd party tools, and the penalty has always been a permaban if you're caught using something you're not allowed to. > > This is also stated in the ToU that you've agreed to follow. he didnt get banned for "using a skin hack"
It was a program MKLOL or somethin. I think it had jungle timers too but im not sure about that one
: If you was perma banned, you did something you shoud not have done. Dont blame Riot for your mistakes.
I dont blame Riot. My point is i understood my mistake. I wanted to get back my account and play as before. Still i've put a lot of money to this account and now it is just gone
: thats interesting, ive never heard of a 9001 ban code before, what were you banned for? do you know? write a ticket to support, i dont think 9001 is a behavior related ban, so it can be reversed in some circumstances.
It is a ban for hacks/scripts i have contacted support and i just got to know this is a life time ban
Hansiman (EUNE)
: Greetings. Bans until the year 9001 are usually provided to those that use 3rd party tools while playing. --- > And i dont care what you will think now. I won't play normally now. If you decide to break the rules on other accounts, you'll just find those permabanned as well.
I know. I did a mistake by using a skin hack. I was ready for making a difference. I wasn't toxic and trolling games and this is the first time suspend for a lifetime. I am sorry that happened but they will still not unban my loved account
Rioter Comments
Infernape (EUW)
: By the looks of it 9001 means you played while using an unauthorised third party program. So what did you use?
As long as i remember i just used a skin hack
: I am very sorry for your situation, I truly am. That sucks hard! But I'm afraid it won't change anything about your ban. Neither you being in a tough situation nor others attacking you is a justification for flaming. It certainly makes it more relateable, but it doesn't make it okay. There are also 2 more factors you have to consider: a) anyone can come up with a personal sob story why they flamed and in many cases it might very well be true. After all people rarely flame without any reason. But having a reason is no justification. If Riot unbanned anyone who is able to provide a reason for his behavior, there would be no bans at all. b) After all it wasn't your first rodeo. You already had a toxic history. You didn't get banned for just one emotional outbreak, you got banned because you flamed AGAIN after already receiving a (probably even several) warnings about it. So I'm afraid this ban is going to stay. Riot also doesn't lift permabans unless the player is actually innocent, which is not true in your case. Sorry for not having better news for you. Concerning your situation: I would lie if I told you I know how you feel. I don't. But I can imagine and I really hope you will find a way to endure it.
So if you say this is like final ban due to other suspends. I never got suspended not for 24hours nor 14 days. I just got banned till 9001 for the first ban. Total bs how much time and money i've spent on this game. Riot just doesn't care about how much people waste on league. They just care for their ,,rules" not community
: banned until Sun Feb 22 22:22:22 UTC 9001
Well my account is banned for the same reason for the same time and honestly i think this is just bullshit. So much time so much money spent in the game and they just rip it off. I think i am done with league playing normally. I am gonna troll every freaking game on my every account. (I have like 17 but this was the main one)
: What's that one thing that makes your main special?
I love my dunkmaster. the feel when u have that skin and ult all 5 enemies is so good. and i love after i kill them all they're like : OMFG darius main. ; lol noob champ I'll always play darius even if he gets nerfed to ground. have 100.k points in him xD{{champion:122}}
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Thank you! You too.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Hey Friend! I fully recovered my account. And it has no more suspend! I want to thank all Rioters and You for helping me! Best of luck in the future!
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Ok. I understand. Just the last day i had so much stress and thought i lost account forever. You are one of the biggest reasons i recovered my account. Thank you.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
1 He said to complete some orders from riot support. I did it. 2.About ban: i did not receive anything 3. Yes 4. At least looking at my match history last day in all matches he had just a few items. Some of matches were 10-15 minutes long. Atleast i think he was leaving.
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
It says: your account has been permanently suspended. So it's perma?
Shiwah (EUW)
: ***
Well. I changed everything. So i won't be scammed again. So it might be for password change. But how long is it actually i do not know what ban is it.
: Send a ticket to support.
Rioter Comments
Show more

energyDZN

Level 30 (EUW)
Lifetime Upvotes
Create a Discussion