Irrsinn (EUW)
: And suddenly, insults instead of proof. Once more.
: if someone troll sells his items and buys just tears but people report him for bad attitude and he gets punished he gets served chat logs for that game, even if he didn't write anything. That's just one example.
> [{quoted}](name=CooL Ice Tea,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=yvNN58hq,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2016-06-08T14:04:58.735+0000) > > if someone troll sells his items and buys just tears but people report him for bad attitude and he gets punished he gets served chat logs for that game, even if he didn't write anything. > > That's just one example. that's true. but that guy's games were legit. anyway, this shows a flaw of the system. as i said in this thread these chat logs called 'reform cards'. put it simply, they are things that show what you did wrong so that you can correct your wrong doing and get reformed. if a reform card shows nothing about your wrong doing, how that player can change his action? this is a flaw. forget about the case. there are cases on reddit, even lyte himself admit that ban was wrong and false positive. after that he unban people. i think nobody can refute this. a simple google search could prove it right. the question is, who gurantees that there not any other false positives?
QUTJE (EUW)
: Remove Flamers
flamers are least concern. /mute all, problem solved. I use /mute all as an in game memo. this way, chat screen shows only your entries. combine with time stamps, you get a nice memo. i write when enemy used flash/heal etc. so when i look chat screen, using timestamp i know when they will be available again. it's a nice feature. on the other hand, main problem is afk, feeder players. there is no way to neutralize the affect of these kind of player. i recently played a game, top laner died aroun 2 minute. then teleported back, died again. then went to mid lane, i guess he is so scared to go top lane. then after 2 more minutes he died there too. then he rage quit the game and left us with a fed mid and top enemy laner. these guys get no punishment whatsoever and there is way to neutralize their negative affect on game.
Irrsinn (EUW)
: "People" = one guy. Even if it were like that, this case hardly qualifies. This chatlog is full of reasons for a ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Irrsinn,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=yvNN58hq,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2016-06-08T13:26:26.644+0000) > > "People" = one guy. > > Even if it were like that, this case hardly qualifies. This chatlog is full of reasons for a ban. This guys has enough proof that he i can share lots of bans like that here, but it will time consuming. system is broken by any means. for instance, chat logs are called reform cards officially. because, they expect you to reform by looking at the card(chat log). on the other hand, they send empty chat logs to players meanwhile banning them. is it possible to reform, without knowing what you did wrong? if they trust the system that much, why they don't do it fully automatic. i mean without reports, let the system analyze all the chat and ban people in accordance. let me say you why, because system weighs report count more than its content. if report count reaches enough density, you will get a ban. i tested it on a smurf account, by randomly reporting people, both on my team and enemy team. i got over 20 report feedback over 100 matches. all in all, this system is broken, but who cares.
: Are riot employees even reviewing games/chat before handing out bans?
it is skynet, there is no human interaction. an automated system decides if you deserve a ban. as far as i see, it counts report number but nothing else. there are people who got banned with empty chat logs. http://i.hizliresim.com/o7QMLb.jpg even if you dont write anything and play normally. if somebody decides to report you, you could get a ban.
LuxMidOrAfk (EUNE)
: TR server?
> [{quoted}](name=LuxMidOrAfk,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=eqtj81ER,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-08T10:44:58.557+0000) > > Hello Summoners. > > I've tried to find out a few things about the TR server. I have been looking up diffrent stuff and as I can see right now, all the high elo's... like 90% of plat 3 and all the way to challenger seems not be from TR. > > What's the MMR diffrence between EUW/EUNE and TR? Why is it all the actual TR(most of them) are so much lower rank then the ones invading the server? wow, where do you get the data? there is nowhere near that many foreigners in TR server. it is rather %10 foreigner to %90 turkish players.
: Doing something about the crazy amount of costs for new and/or returning players
basically, you are telling riot to sacrifice some of its profit for the sake of players. the system is designed to encourage you to spend money. - runes can be bought only with IP and expensive. so you have to spend all your IP for runes. - champions can be bought with IP and RP, but you have to spend your IP on runes. so you need to spend money to unlock champions. it is designed so to make you spend money. there are also minor things, for example RP can be bought in fixed amount and that amount never fits to purchasable items. there is always some residual RP after purchases which cannot be usable. This small RP will always disturb you, it is human nature. You will buy more RP eventually, in order to make that small amount resemble. I hope i conveyed the idea. basically, system is designed to make to spend more and more.
: What do i have to do when i found a smurfer ?
if smurfing should require a ban, then half of the server should be banned. it is a bit exaggeration but probably more than %20 of accounts are smurf. only thing you can do is to try to learn something from him.
: Banned 14 days
> [{quoted}](name=MuFaSaTHEsTrOnG,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=entXtZB3,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-27T13:25:57.511+0000) > > So i got banned for 14 days 4 days ago ! I would like to know if at the end of the season i will get rewards or no ? if you manage to got a 14 day ban, you will eventually got perma banned. So, don't sweat over small things.
House x33 (EUW)
: About reports
> [{quoted}](name=House x33,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=HeFEz4P8,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-12T11:04:16.351+0000) > > How many reports does it take for some one to be punished by the system ? I had a guy 3 days in a row in 5 ranked games where he has gone afk after a lane died to gank or himself beeing killed during a gank > > I'm already getting mad when seeing him in champ select -.-" afk's don't get ban from banning system, leaverbuster takes care. so, they don't get perma or 14 day ban if you just report them for being afk. report density changes from server to server. i guess for eur it is around 2-3. so, 2-3 report per game over 10-20 matches. this is my guess, though.
: > [{quoted}](name=derpydamian,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4AxYnJIM,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-05-08T22:22:39.704+0000) > > why are you lying? i wont get banned alot of people tell me i wont get banned i am not lying, respect pls. i am sharing my experience with you.
wow, that's harsh. RIOT removed my post because i said the truth which i experienced. But let that that guys comments, where he offends me with with being a LIAR without a proof. what a hypocrisy
: why are you lying? i wont get banned alot of people tell me i wont get banned
> [{quoted}](name=derpydamian,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4AxYnJIM,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-05-08T22:22:39.704+0000) > > why are you lying? i wont get banned alot of people tell me i wont get banned i am not lying, respect pls. i am sharing my experience with you.
momoandapa (EUNE)
: What is wrong with people?
> [{quoted}](name=momoandapa,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1atIM07U,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-07T06:09:00.629+0000) > > Whenever i play league, every second player is a new tyler1. > in boards however every guy i met (and i met quite a lot) is really nice. does that mean only nice people go to boards? nah, some ppl act nice on forums and flames hard in game. game chat is monitored by an automated system, and if you did not get a report no monitoring at all. on forums, text is monitored by a human being and there is very little chance of escape from this. so, if you behave badly you will get banned near instantly. that's why forums are nice, but in game chat is a hell.
MikinoCA (EUNE)
: Tribunal
tribunal will never be back, they changed it with automated ban system. practically, it is the new tribunal.
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