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: Looking for ppl to play with!
Search in discord for people with mic, coz in-game voip is just for the emergency cases.
: League new player experience is an actual joke
Yep. Expirience of new players is horrible. Reasons for that: ranked placement is too high - silver1-bronze1. Should be iron4-0 LP, so new player would not be afraid to experiment. Normal games are favored to fast speed not balance ( you can skip this fun mode when you get 30 level ). Aram culture removes strategic aspect from the game, people troll pick support malphite or jungle ashe. But most important. Lack of natural arcade style. Game is strategic much more then it is arcade. So the right solution is often least logical one.
: Then you just move the problem to iron 4... If you start placements silver-ish, odds are decent that the new-to-ranked person might be OK-ish for the match, while if you start them all iron 4, suddenly you dump a whole bunch of 1v9-ers into their all out random brawl/ADC-melee-1-v-1 etc. games. It would take all the fun out of https://www.twitch.tv/saltyteemo if "will any one of them play halfway decent? " changes to "who has a placements player that will stomp?". ;)
No that's the false idol of "serving the needs of new player". New players who placed not so great, ending up not gold4 but silver4, are going to meet all those people falling down onto them. They won't climb exactly because of all those people falling down on them which were placed higher initially. That's why everybody on new acc should be placed in single point. And Iron4 is the best because you can do whatever you want there, nobody will judge you because you won't fall down. In previous seasons there were tonns of people in bronze5 and it wasn't "bad elo" because everybody was bronze at some point. I think introduction of iron is also bad decision. I don't understand how that should help the game.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Well it is because matchmaking is inclined more towards giving games faster and (maybe) not at (all) giving fair games. I haven't checked every single profile, but I guess maybe one premade is there to have such a difference in ranks. As always I write, check team mates profiles during champ select and it is safer to dodge games where someone's +/-2 ranks from our rank. p.s: I like porofessor because they give details like invader, ignores turret, passive laner,... which are really useful even at champ select.
>I guess maybe one premade is there Would be detected by porofessor.
Rioter Comments
HideSide (EUNE)
: Ye, but he has 4 CD on STUN, and thats how I managed to win whole game, with banshee up I flashed to enemy team and caught someone and since CC meant certain death on boths sides, we won that teamfight and then cleared the game. And with lichbane and hextech gunblade he can oneshot other carries just fine if he has at least some lead. But hey, dmg isnt his strong point, maybe he deserves some buff but not big one.
It's not a stun what is strong about TF
: Twisted fate deals 0 damage
Nah, TF is super frikking strong. You just have to get from your Elo Hell up to any relevant Elo like M 600+ pts. Or just don't play Normals, where your teammates don't know what the hell they are doing. PS. Winning games with TF is so super easy, you basically cannot lose your lane because you can flush waves fast enough and snipe CS from super large distance. Well, if you get jumped by 3-4 people, thats your team's fault and you cannot do anything against that, any champ would be useless in that case.
: It’s not lifesteal it’s spellvamp as well... and champions like ryze and Cassio love the spellvamp hence why they are abusing the rune
Looks like, again, tonns of champions are getting hit simply because Rito forgot to make Conqueror AD only.
: Ranged spells and multicast spells should only give 1 stack each imho. But restricting primary trees based on classes is mighty stupid. And you confuse classes with roles. Wtf should Sejuani and Zac use, if Resolve is for top only? Also im a big Spellbook user, and i would hate it if i could only play it as support.
>But restricting primary trees based on classes is mighty stupid. But they are doing it. Conqueror nerf - specifically for ADCs. I don't even see Conqueror as super good choice for ADCs, but they are still going for that nerf. Mages don't care about less Lifesteal and still will play Conqueror, LOL.
: Ranked Placement ?
I don't understand why such thing as "Placement" still exists for new accounts. Everybody should start at the first step of the ladder. Iron 4 - 0 LP. No excuses. Placing people higher is serving to create Elo Hell for people from Silver4 and below. Elo Hell is clearly all manual invention from Rito Gamez. Then people from Bronze are all typing on boards that they cannot climb. Ofc you cannot climb, you got that guy whos playing his first game and running 0-20, against Darius who has 300 games only playing Darius :)
negativ0e (EUW)
: i cant climb of bronze
Everybody is Bronze, they just have bought accounts here on forums to show off their Diamond badges for dik-measuring purposes. In reality they all are Bronze. I'm not against buying accs, but just don't trust official statistics saying that majority is Gold. You are toplaner. If you use TP to get back to lane, then you won't climb. If you don't use TP, you won't climb.
fDbRobert (EUW)
: ADC Cheat Sheet - Best Bot Synergy Comps
Good informative sheet every support should be using, instead of running down their MMR with single pick. I'm already using some of my tables which differ in few ways. PS I think Lucian+Braum isn't really strong anymore. Pick Senna, Janna, Lulu etc.
: Senna + Senna is good combo
You mean Lux+Senna, because Senna is just a Lux on steroids.
: Except that’s not true in the slightest. Yes conquerer is being heavily nerfed for ranged champions, but the current strongest champions in the game are ranged champions who are abusing conquerer (specifically mages). And your also forgetting that it isn’t adcs, these are top laners... so your idea does apsolutly nothing
Yes. Selective nerf to ADCs. But Mages are good. Melee are good. Toplaners are good. All the nerfs are to the bottom lane. It is already a lane nobody wants to play: Neither support nor ADC. But they want it to be completely trash.
Rioter Comments
: wishing cancer the only solution?
"mute all" at beginning of game
: It kinda depends, there is still the occasional {{champion:82}} appearing in botlane, although it has gotten very rare since his last round of nerfs. in that case, {{item:3140}} still is kinda needed. It also builds into {{item:3139}} which isnt exactly a high power ADC item, but far from useless. More Standard ADC defensive choices include {{item:3156}} vs heavy AP damage and of course the generally useful {{item:3026}} and {{item:3046}}
I'm ending up with MoM more often since it's super effective gold expenditure. Mercurial gets super useless because Mages are rolling into fast Void this days, so you can possibly clean CC but will die from 1-2 spells. PS. And ofc {{item:3091}} , because it is gold effective too.
: Am I in ELO HELL?
Yes. Elo hell := MMR less then D2
Rioter Comments
: What's up with Ezreal's stat chart?
"Difficulty - small", haha what a nonsense. PS. Ezreal is not based on basic attacks also. What a BS characteristic. Ezreal is AD Caster, with removal of Klepto - very shitty one.
PRoxy oQ (EUNE)
: It is so they don't have to fix bad match making and so they can keep shity players up in every elo to force try to force their 50% WR logic
And for the boosting companies to sell their "service".
: Funneling strats need to be adressed and nerfed
This happens simply because Riot removed Siege as gameplay mechanic. Everything you need is Nashor, can be taken by Yi alone. This is disgusting. Another big mistake is concetrating game around melee champions. All melee champions having huge buffs, while bottom lane populated with ranged champs is suffering from nerfs of XP and gold. If you farm good as ADC, instead of giving you incentives, game punishes you by putting gold bounty over your head. I think - remove all bounties at once.
: Bunch of actually good players stuck on bronze???
Everybody with new acc should start at Iron4 0LP. Placement should be a priviledge of people who played in previous season. PS. No they aren't good. The reason you don't see their mistakes is Dunning–Kruger effect. You don't see other people's mistakes basically because you don't see your own. Actually ability to see your own mistakes enables you to see other peoples mistakes and realize how to gain from that ground.
Rioter Comments
GUCCł (EUNE)
: In your opinion, best champs to one-trick currently?
neropa (EUNE)
: You know that imgur exists right?
ye I'll try some other site for pics next time; just don't see any pron there coz I'm using adblck
: > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Z92ATQm3,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-01T17:01:46.401+0000) > > I knew that you would go %%%%-measuring contest, but I think that "Platy Puss" icon is not enough for that, at least do the favor and get Chally, just seen how this Platy pussies are playing on streams and was throwing up from their plays. Literally elo hell you are in. I clearly said that neither your nor my rank matters to the question weither Yuumi was banned due to proplay or not. Since you've completely dropped the Kindred point after I demanded evidence and you clearly would rather bash me with ad hominems instead of giving evidence for Yuumi, I think it's quite clear that you have none and your point is utterly invalid :-) Thanks for clarifying :)
>dropped the Kindred point You don't get it at all. It is not about "pick rate" in proplays. Pick rate in pro means just another data source, if you want to understand what's going on you should get into more details. They present you with "pick rate" in Pro, with "gold advantage @15", "CS advantage @15" and other stats but this information is exactly the type of information you need as Viewer. Analytical experts look into other factors, how big is particular threat, how to counter it etc etc. Is Kindred strong? She was kinda strong. Was she pickable in wide variety of team comps? Nope.
: > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Z92ATQm3,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-01T16:38:00.731+0000) > > Can we skip that part where I say that you played only 30 games in this season, so you better just take Yuumi and play her to figure out why. You'd like that, huh? Because you would definitely like to skip the part where you have been hard stuck bronze for years and barely managed to climb to silver 4 with 700+ games. So your opinion about balancing the game doesn't really bare any weight - which is irrelevant anyway because your entire point was that the champ was nerfed due to proplay. Neither my nor your match history have anything to do with your original point. So please, give an argument why Yuumi was nerfed due to proplay. > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Z92ATQm3,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-01T16:38:00.731+0000) > > Literally all you do with Yuumi is chilling under tower in hope you won't catch Thresh hook or die from something else while your Garen/Mord is chilling near minions trying to get squeeze CS and you both just wait for level 6 because your only gank is possible when you R into them. This is not how you play Yuumi, lol. Not at all. Before the nerfs Yuumi was an insufferable lane bully with almost unavoidable but really high damage output. Especially Mord/Yuumi doesn't exist. It has a huge anti-syngery with his ult. Why would you do that?
>where you have been hard stuck I knew that you would go %%%%-measuring contest, but I think that "Platy Puss" icon is not enough for that, at least do the favor and get Chally, just seen how this Platy pussies are playing on streams and was throwing up from their plays. Literally elo hell you are in.
: > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Z92ATQm3,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-01T13:35:27.484+0000) > > God frikin hell if they reduce her ult she will instantly be 25% winrate instead of 43%. That's why it's not being reduced (yet). Where do you take this from? Do you have any legitimate source for this? > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Z92ATQm3,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-01T13:35:27.484+0000) > > S8 she was played very extensively for her early ganks. > Check out the game from LCS when Dhokla on Yorick was killed by Kindred in first 2 minutes or so. This is an anecdote, a single case of something that happened once. Do you have any statistics to back up this claim and the patch notes after that where she got nerfed? When I look thorugh her Season 8 patch history, I see a bunch of huge buffs followed by some minor nerfs later in the season.
Can we skip that part where I say that you played only 30 games in this season, so you better just take Yuumi and play her to figure out why. Literally all you do with Yuumi is chilling under tower in hope you won't catch Thresh hook or die from something else while your Garen/Mord is chilling near minions trying to get squeeze CS and you both just wait for level 6 because your only gank is possible when you R into them. If you aren;t playing against dump n00bs, you will see Thresh or Naut with 100% chance because they know how yo counter you in the hardest way. PS. Btw Yuumi does not exist anymore, Garen cannot take Relic.
Uraraka (EUNE)
: Maybe it is a low elo thing, but if adc players aren't playing someone like Draven they should just try to maximize cs to scale faster and position well to play safe. Also others shouldn't lose so hard and make the level difference worse for bot duo. I play supp and in silver, most of the games are decided even before adc can hit 1-2 items. Even the adc players won't play safe and constantly fight or push blindly to die more and get behind more instead of farming to keep up with level and items.
I see ADCs who cannot CS all the time. Yet they sit in their elos simply because their role has so little impact. Same as supports. In low elos again the great population of "Malphite support trolls" is growing. They think that by trolling they just get rid of their autofill, but their Rating will sink because of losses. Malphite is troll pick and by doing so they just tilt their team and team instantly losing chances to win.
Vanchovski (EUNE)
: Guys , some of you didn't really got the point. Sometimes the situation ask for traditional ADC champions for example when the enemy composition is quite tanky Kog Maw and Vayne are must or if your team lacks CC and Teamfight here we go with Varus and Ashe for overall team utility and Twitch for better overall teamfight. But my opinion is that those champions are performing much better on other lanes - Twitch Jungle , Vayne Top , Kaisa Mid and so on. Most of the players are picking ADC on bot because they think it is troll pick if they dont.
Ofc you can pick anything on bottom lane, if you already have ADC on other roles. Can go Heimer bottom, if you got Vayne top. It's just too hard to reach some conclusion who goes where. I took once Ornn as Bottom lane and it was fine, I farmed and tower hug until my team got a lead on winning lanes. I just used my farm to build tank. Ornn is pretty good botlaner, he is withstanding good damage and can even threat enemies if he has something hooky alongside.
Vanchovski (EUNE)
: AD Carries are underperforming.
The problem of ADCs is that they are MEANT to have kills right now in current meta to be able to obtain impact. If you are ADC and you are just farming your lane, you are just keeping yourself on-par with your enemies and your team. But there are tonns of threats to ADC so best strategy is just play passive, never going for dangerous plays. Because if you screw up your lane by single death, in most bottom lanes that is enough for enemy botlaner to get a lead by 25-30 cs plus couple more kills. What freaks me most is that most of the time the guy who is screwing the lane isn't ADC but some support. So supports are really defining who will win, they are just too stupid to understand that in most cases (I played support a lot). Lane is more often ends up with ADCs peeling for their support then supports peeling for their ADCs, thats how f-d up bottom lane right now is.
: adc is the most broken role
By "broken" you mean fastest scaling for given amount of gold? Yes. But base damage and stats are god frikkin awful.
: > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=EYvWyHmR,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-01T00:33:08.376+0000) > Look for example at Lucian and Senna. Both are marksmen but not ADC. Worst possible choice if you want to carry a game is to have Senna or Lucian. because they do zero damage. They cannot get close to enemies without being oneshot and they cannot oneshot enemies in return. Senna sits on 54% wr on adc position btw useless trash champ deals no dmg ROFL LMFAO LOL
The fudge are you listening with? Sites show you "ADC" meaning "Bottom lane champion". Heimerdinger is Mage and is played Bottom Lane. Does not make him ADC because he isn't scaling much. The reason Heimer and Senna are good is because there is NO late game, you either get Drake or lose.
: > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Z92ATQm3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-01T12:27:14.998+0000) > > Yuumi = strong ult impossible to utilize in casual trash games (the guy you linked will run in wrong direction and not Flash for your ult). If you want to make the point that Yuumi has been nerfed due to proplay, than it is due to the Garen-Yuumi combo but definitely not because her ult is so strong. Her ult wasn't even touched. They nerfed her obnoxious Q which is what made her strong. > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Z92ATQm3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-01T12:27:14.998+0000) > > Reksai = radar detection of enemies for the comms. The radar hasn't been touched so what is your point here? Her ult got changed but that was at a time when noone was playing the champ in proplay anyway. > [{quoted}](name=galoisgroup,realm=EUW,application-id=2BfrHbKG,discussion-id=Z92ATQm3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-12-01T12:27:14.998+0000) > > Kindred = super strong LvL 2 gank impossible to dodge. I can't recall Kindred being strong in proplay anywhen in the last past years. Maybe you can give me the patches and regions she was strong in and the corresponding nerfs?
>due to the Garen-Yuumi combo but definitely not because her ult is so strong. Her ult wasn't even touched God frikin hell if they reduce her ult she will instantly be 25% winrate instead of 43%. That's why it's not being reduced (yet). Garen-Yuumi, may be you didn't know but it's her best laning phase, but it's still worst bottom lane performed during Worlds... They didn't have prio for whooping 20 minutes or so.. >I can't recall Kindred being strong in proplay S8 she was played very extensively for her early ganks. Check out the game from LCS when Dhokla on Yorick was killed by Kindred in first 2 minutes or so.
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rTb Kappo (EUNE)
: Champ Select Trolls
Matchmaking is just trash.
: The only champs on the list who got nerfed due to proplay are Azir and Kalista. Kalista got recently buffed whereas Azir was pretty much the only viable midlaner (together with Corki) a few months ago so I don't quite know why you think they got "killed". As for Taliyah - she didn't get "nerfed" into jungle. She got her Q changed which resulted in her being **the best jungler in the game** for several patches. I wouldn't quite call that a nerf. After that she received some changes becuase Riot actually wanted her to be played mid and her jungle obviously needed nerfs - but those left her in an awkward spot. ASol and Kassadin, for example, have barely had any presence in proplay for the past couple of years (although Kassadin has been a massive threat in soloq for some months now). I don't quite get where your impression comes from.
Yuumi, Kindred, Reksai all nerfed because of proplay. Yuumi = strong ult impossible to utilize in casual trash games (the guy you linked will run in wrong direction and not Flash for your ult). Reksai = radar detection of enemies for the comms. Kindred = super strong LvL 2 gank impossible to dodge.
kiwishrew (EUW)
: Stop killing unique and interesting champions because of pro-play
Needless to say nobody wants to play Bottom Lane. When people get autofilled as support, they troll. Nobody wants to be ADC with trolling %%%%%%o as support and neither support mains want to be near ADC which got 30 cs in 30 min.
Vanchovski (EUNE)
: AD Carries are underperforming.
>much better for unknown reasons Reasons are well known. Basic stats of solo-lane champions are much better then of duo-lane. Yasuo was made to be sololane champion, able to withstand tonns of harass. Add here his bug with HoB, he is perfect for Bottom lane position. He was ADC before, but as melee nobody tried him extensively for proplay as Botlane ADC. He was only played as Mid ADC. Look for example at Lucian and Senna. Both are marksmen but not ADC. Worst possible choice if you want to carry a game is to have Senna or Lucian. because they do zero damage. They cannot get close to enemies without being oneshot and they cannot oneshot enemies in return.
Kurotsu (EUW)
: Climb.
I don't have all the time in this frikking universe to play this game just to be able to play this game.
xxxXFANXxxx (EUNE)
: Lethality is stupid
Because tanks are strong. Noobs just haven't figured out how to abuse them. Ornn was played on Worlds super heavily.
Vanchovski (EUNE)
: You should consider that not every Fighter fits onto ADC Role. Yi and Trynda are easily kiteable. Yasuo , Fiora and Irelia might be better choice
>Yi and Trynda are easily kiteable No way dud. You should decide what you call with what name. ADC is just a type of champion which scales best. The name is purely historical. "Bottom lane" is role. ADCs are everywhere. Top/Mid/Jng. Bottom lane was occupied by ADC+Sup. But today it's occupied by Mage+Mage. Even by Tank+Mage. Because there is ADCs on other roles. Top Vayne, Mid Yasuo etc. They are all ADCs. How kitable they are - doesn't matter. They provide best damage for given gold. Period. No, Fiora is not ADC. Does not provide enough damage. The thing that Fiora scales even beyound her 6 slots, like Nasus, does not make her ADC. Same with Irelia. Having powerspike at first item doesn't make a champ into ADC category. ADC is the FASTEST scaling champion.
Vanchovski (EUNE)
: AD Carries are underperforming.
My opinion is that ADC/support lane today is just a reminiscent of "greater past" of this game. It was a times when game was decided by Siege, not a Nashor fight like in S9. Right now it's decided even faster, at the first Dragon. If you lose two first Dragons, game over, go AFK. If you win second Drake, you may have some chances.
: Oh boy ADCs are back claiming theyre weak again
So why play ADC when you can play Yasuo/Trynd/Yi and it will be all same but have better win conditions? Players who can punish Trynd are sitting only in Diamond, they are less then 1% of population, in 99% of games you don't need any ADC.
Vanchovski (EUNE)
: AD Carries are underperforming.
Because they destroyed botlane overall. Basically ADC is a champion which has increased scaling over other champions due to high range or "steroid" abilities giving more stats. They nerfed jungle to the ground. So people started picking ADCs into other lanes, like toplane or midlane. So they nerfed ADC again and again, instead of putting more danger from jungle.
: I don't want to play with trash below me by 2+ divisions or 30% winrate.
I'm playing in low elo, what the hell is going on, is there not enough players to put only Silver vs Silver?????
: I don't want to play with trash below me by 2+ divisions or 30% winrate.
I DONT WANT ANY "CLIMB", I JUST WANT TO PLAY EQUAL GAME, NOT PREDETERMINED ONE.
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