MY WlENER (EUW)
: Using LOL skin changer is bannable?
Riot's stance on the matter is: > "No software should interfere directly with the in-game player experience, from when you press “Play” to the end-of-game screen." However, with custom skins it is very much a **use at your own risk** situation. You can find out more information about Riot's stance on the matter [on their support page](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/225266848-Third-Party-Applications)
HammerBot (EUNE)
: Runes
Why do you believe that removing runes from the game would be beneficial? What advantages does removing runes have? It's all fine and well suggesting an idea but you haven't provided any supporting evidence for anyone to consider.
: And so it happened i got an S+ on Vayne :))))
: Gift Cards
The shops in my area have league gift cards in them.
: But it *is* just normals. That's kinda the point of the normal game mode. So you can play around and experiment and just have fun, instead of having to be a tryhard metaslave like in ranked. Now I don't mind tryharding in ranked, but I'm not gonna play the same way when I play normals.
I never said there was anything wrong with playing around and experimenting in normals, but trolling games or inting and using "it's just normals" as an excuse is not fair to anyone on the team, it ruins the fun for the rest of the players when you are intentionally ruining their experience simply because "it's just normals"
Zaeano (EUNE)
: i start hating again lol
I wish the phrase "it's just normals" was punishable as it ruins and derails the game for everyone else.
Draining (EUW)
: YASUO WINDWALL VERY INCONSISTENT
I played a blind pick game where I picked yasuo and was against the enemy yasuo, I q'd at him and he winwalled, it got blocked; he q'd at me and I windwalled, it went through and he was able to ult off of it.
Silent Note (EUNE)
: I don't understand upvotes and downvotes sometimes
Recently there has been a lot of issues with the game with many bugs and client issues. This has brought in a large amount of people to the boards. Those who tend to complain tend to be those who are easily agitated or annoyed and many of them are toxic players. As such the increase in toxic players leads to an increase in the negative posts on the boards being upvoted and the positive posts being downvoted
dino0 (EUW)
: Don't talk nonsense ,the more reports you get in one game the more the system will tragedy your account.
https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752884-Reporting-a-Player#h2q1 > It only takes one report for our systems to review a game. Additional reports will not do anything for the offending player; however as mentioned above, it could open yourself up to a report of your own; especially if you are derailing the match by constantly demanding reports of other players.
: > [{quoted}](name=kjono1,realm=EUW,application-id=jeJYsmwG,discussion-id=O4zr6QIE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-21T12:23:40.682+0000) > > No shaming on the boards REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE What part of that is shaming exactly ?
> [{quoted}](name=thepowerlies,realm=EUW,application-id=jeJYsmwG,discussion-id=O4zr6QIE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-21T14:36:59.462+0000) > > What part of that is shaming exactly ? You are posting it with the intent to cause enjoyment/laughter/etc. at the expense of the player involved in the clip
: Facechecking here is fine - Rush
No shaming on the boards REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
: Cmoon man, its the middle of summer, it can't be that cold ?!
They are just shaking with excitement getting to play the game.
: Is there anyway to unbann an acc/del an acc
You can't unban accounts, players are punished for breaking the rules and if they continue to break them they are banned after that it cannot be undone, hence they are called permanent bans. You can, however, deactivate or delete an account by [submitting a ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) to Riot Support. If you delete the account though there is no way of getting it back afterwards.
St4nny (EUW)
: Ctrl/Shift lock bug
I think this is may be more of a technical issue than a bug; I'm not sure if the board's wrenchmen venture off of the technical support section a lot. I did find [this post](https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support-en/7X3Bx7HO-the-wrenchmens-toolbox-in-game-graphicsfps-issues) in the technical support section that states > My keys/mouse buttons don't work correctly anymore / I can't edit my input.ini and game.cfg files anymore and how to fix it.
Torkl (EUW)
: Ahri has by far the lowest damage of all champions in lol, an E is never = death unless its a gank or she is 1 item ahead and has ignite up..
I had a quick look at the last match history of the player and there was a silver 4 Ahri against a bronze 3 Azir. Judging by the KDA and items of the player, Ahri likely won lane, with some possible help from hecarim ganks also and snowballed from there. At the end of the game, Ahri was level 15 and had {{item:3285}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3135}} {{item:3108}} {{item:1026}} which when compared to KristyCat's Sivir who was level 12 with {{item:3072}} {{item:3133}} {{item:1038}} {{item:1018}} {{item:1001}} it isn't surprising that the Ahri was able to one shot players being so far ahead. It's most likely just a case of an unlucky game where the enemy team were just better and were able to snowball off of their early lead before KristyCat's team were able to build against it.
KristyCat (EUNE)
: Dear Riot, please, nerf Ahri.
She is rewarded for hitting her skillshots, she maybe has a bit too much damage when her r+w combo can kill without hitting her e or q but I wouldn't say she's in need of a nerf
: This game suck more each day
Honest question. If you don't enjoy the game, then why do you keep playing? You can't say you both enjoy the game and that it sucks. The two points counter each other. If you are not having fun, then stop playing.
AhmadS5 (EUNE)
: League of legends website / boards/download link all blocked .
are you sure a family member hasn't blocked the game on your internet?
Zockerede (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=kjono1,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0f4Xg0E4,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-18T22:09:03.463+0000) > > The number of reports have no impact on the outcome. 1 report has the same effect as 9 reports in the same match so asking for reports is nothing more than flaming the teammate which is harassment which is punishable. > > Retaliation is also not an excuse as you are just as bad as the person you are retaliating against; you are both breaking the rules and you can't blame the other person for you choosing to verbally fight back. > > You broke the rules, and as a result were punished in the form of a chat ban. As you were punished, you are aware that the reporting system does actually work and so instead of complaining and continuing to retaliate about the fact you broke the rules were penalised accordingly; recognise that you don't need to argue back and instead follow the rules and report those who don't in the post-game screen. how does that make any sense?
> [{quoted}](name=Zockerede,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=0f4Xg0E4,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-07-18T22:26:12.976+0000) > > how does that make any sense? What parts are you misunderstanding?
Zockerede (EUW)
: Chat banned for this? xDDD LOL
The number of reports have no impact on the outcome. 1 report has the same effect as 9 reports in the same match so asking for reports is nothing more than flaming the teammate which is harassment which is punishable. Retaliation is also not an excuse as you are just as bad as the person you are retaliating against; you are both breaking the rules and you can't blame the other person for you choosing to verbally fight back. You broke the rules, and as a result were punished in the form of a chat ban. As you were punished, you are aware that the reporting system does actually work and so instead of complaining and continuing to retaliate about the fact you broke the rules were penalised accordingly; recognise that you don't need to argue back and instead follow the rules and report those who don't in the post-game screen.
: i need help
Well, a negative mood leads to poor play, so you want to work toward ensuring you have a positive mindset while playing. The best thing you can do is after a loss, don't click "play again"; instead exit to the landing screen after you log in. Now, leave your PC, go away from it, out of the room, doesn't matter if it was a terrible loss or just an unlucky one, it still has a negative impact so leave the area. At this point you have a choice to make, exercise is a great way to keep yourself both mentally and physically fit, go out a walk/jog for 5 or 10 minutes; or listen to a song; or make a snack; or read a book for so many pages or so many minutes, a minimum of 5 minutes. A 5 minute break is great to get our brains back in focus, doing this is also great for studying, when you get that feeling of tiredness or "I'm reading and this is not going in", usually around the 20-25 minute mark, have a 5 minute break and you'll be ready to go again after that. The reason you leave your PC and the room is to physically remove yourself away from being directly in front of the area that just caused you to feel down. Once you've done something else for at least 5 minutes, come back and the client will be back at the landing page for a fresh start, it won't be at the post game screen, or the defeat image at the end of the game, those are in the past now, and you don't have a reminder of the poor mood because you cleared that before your break. When you win, get a kill, ace the enemy team, or do anything good in the game, praise yourself and your teammates, say to yourself, "_why am I so good at this game?!_" put in the ally chat "_great job team, why are we so good at this?!_", or if a teammate gets a good kill or a lucky escape instead of saying "good job" ask them "_why are you so good at this game?_" and make it personal by putting in their summoner name or champion name, e.g. "Wow Zed! why are you so good at this game?" The reason you question it rather than make a statement is that a question prompts our brain to come up with an answer, because of this our brain contemplates the question and in turn is more likely to engage in the thought; whereas the statement "_I am so good at this game_" will pass fairly quickly. The reason you should also put it in the ally chat is that it has the same positive effect on them including your team and making them question why they themselves are so good. You promote a positive mindset in the team which allows everyone to focus more on winning. Don't post in all chat though as that is just pointless, in fact, it is best to mute the enemy team and only use all chat to say "_good luck and have fun_" and "_ggwp_" By following the above you'll keep yourself (and your teammates) in a good state of mind allowing you to perform your best!
: it was a game that we were like 3-20 (1-3 me,0-6 ezreal)...if you could see the rest of the team they were like %%% etc etc and also report morde was for fun because enemy team were thelling this all game....if you se im the only one who got banned from all 9 even tho the rest of the team flamed
> [{quoted}](name=Avgo Dolofonos ,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=TYWtO0Y8,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-18T20:32:16.209+0000) > > it was a game that we were like 3-20 (1-3 me,0-6 ezreal)...if you could see the rest of the team they were like %%% etc etc and also report morde was for fun because enemy team were thelling this all game....if you se im the only one who got banned from all 9 even tho the rest of the team flamed Firstly, just because you got banned, doesn't mean the rest of the team never received punishments too, especially if reported. The rest of the team flaming is also not an excuse to flame yourself as you are also then breaking the rules and therefore deserving of any punishment that came your way. Asking for reports regardless of if it was jokingly to you, is still asking for reports and in effect flaming. It may be funny to you but it is still intentionally (you made the choice yourself to do so) ruining the experience for the player at the receiving end of your "just for fun" flame. You broke the rules and you got punished, and while it's frustrating, the rules aren't made to be broken ~~unless you are playing Jinx~~
: FIX THIS F****NG TRASH CLIENT
There's no one way to code, and because of the vast amount of coding along with the multiple different options available in order to achieve the same outcome, there's bound to be problems that appear now and again, sometimes in large numbers, sometimes small easy fixes. I'm sure Riot are doing there best to resolve the issues behind the bugs and crashes but these things take time and unfortunately, fixing 1 problem can lead to having more due to the above reason. Yes 3 weeks is a long time but over those 3 weeks many of the previous issues have been resolved.
: bans
Have you noticed the first two report options are negative attitude and verbal abuse. Your chat logs are full of you talking about giving up, trolling and also of flaming your teammates, so you covered both those options. Retaliation is also not an excuse as it just makes you as bad as the player you are retaliating against; so you cannot blame your teammates for your punishment, you brought this on yourself. You clearly know the report system works as you were punished for breaking the rules, so next time, don't break them and use the report system that is available to you at the post game screen. Also, bit of advice, the number of reports has no effect on the outcome, 1 report is as powerful as 9 so asking for players to be reported is useless and is just another form of flaming a teammate which when repeated becomes harassment.
: Imagine
Sure it can be frustrating that things don't work as intended, but things don't always go to plan. At the end of the day it's a free to play game, it's only a game and while it is annoying things not working as intended, it's not the end of the world. Calling for people to get fired just because you can't play as intended for a short period of time, why does this situation bother you this much? Take a deep breathe, calm down and for your own sake, get your priorities sorted because a computer game should not cause you this much anger and frustration.
: Disable allied chat
There should be absolutely zero excuse for verbal abuse at all in the game. Being toxic towards teammates is a form of verbal abuse and those punishments and bans were deserved. The ability to stop yourself from chatting isn't going to stop those who wish to flame, they will still do it regardless, allowing them there accounts back would be illogical and would only ruin the experience for those who play the game while following the rules.
zeuSSrbin (EUNE)
: hey i just got banned by someone else false
We on the boards are unable to action anything, we are just other players like yourself. I'd recommend sending a ticket to Riot Support, you can do that [by clicking here](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new)
BgADong (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=kjono1,realm=EUW,application-id=eZuvYsEr,discussion-id=98pHxLJ8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-14T22:29:53.593+0000) > > Riot do provide the chat logs if you were banned for toxicity, you could head over to the player behaviour section of the boards and paste them, unedited, in a post there and I'm positive people would be more than happy to assist you in understanding what led to you getting punished and if they think the punishment is fair. so imma start with u and tell me if this was actually worth of perma banned okay? Game 1 Pre-Game BgADong: u shouldve said that in banning phase BgADong: yeah im still a virgin BgADong: there would be a 1st time for me right? BgADong: wtf they blur v1rgin? In-Game BgADong: double ks BgADong: xd ez what? BgADong: i did the work there BgADong: u inly got sum kills BgADong: ez he said BgADong: jiust push mid BgADong: nha its not BgADong: it will ,ever be BgADong: no BgADong: yeah ofc BgADong: nice feed guys BgADong: i appreciate it BgADong: yeah can u pls stfu? BgADong: ur acting so weird BgADong: u wawnna look like the pro player BgADong: and thats annoyin BgADong: g BgADong: oh hi dad BgADong: cool u can rea BgADong: woah look we're losing BgADong: i wonder how would that happen BgADong: talon? BgADong: holyyyyyyyyyyy BgADong: okay time to actually try to havefun by feeding si nce its all over BgADong: yeah not / BgADong: 3/7 BgADong: oh great team BgADong: u focus the wrong ones xd BgADong: rep ashe feed and toxic :( BgADong: xddddddddd yah and ur the one saying that BgADong: u seem tilted bro BgADong: xdddddddddd BgADong: idk me too whos tilted here? BgADong: why dont we just ff? BgADong: xd yeah BgADong: and wasting time is cool BgADong: after feeding u prefer to waste time too BgADong: typical players BgADong: ty for e morg BgADong: so rep my team they refuse to ff BgADong: casue its 'coward' BgADong: anyways gg better top wins BgADong: oh ty BgADong: nice bot very nice BgADong: haha ez BgADong: what are u expecting me to do there? BgADong: u fed them BgADong: i can do nothing xd BgADong: yeah like if i dont go we'll wi, BgADong: its already over bud xd BgADong: yeah same BgADong: betetr bot wins Post-Game BgADong: xd team BgADong: what xd?? BgADong: really guys? ws BgADong: cause they got tilted BgADong: cause they fed BgADong: they must show that its not their fault BgADong: typical players xd BgADong: xddddddddddddddd BgADong: u mad bros? BgADong: idk whats wrong with them xd BgADong: they all hate me for no reason BgADong: i mean i helped them with some instructions BgADong: they never listened BgADong: and yet they flame me BgADong: never help BgADong: and want to rep me xd Game 2 In-Game BgADong: what are the chances we lose this game? BgADong: yeah sure BgADong: we'll see BgADong: oh funny sup BgADong: welp this shows i must mute u BgADong: for what reason BgADong: why al i a kid? BgADong: enlighten me BgADong: still waiting for the reason why im a kid by muting u bud :) BgADong: ?wth is this range BgADong: haha aatrox mid he said BgADong: hes getting fked now xd BgADong: oh i fking hate that champ BgADong: as ms aand can get out of my range easily BgADong: i lost tower top BgADong: haha aatrox mid BgADong: what a loser BgADong: omg ur so good player BgADong: teach me how to win next time BgADong: cool heimer BgADong: give em more kills BgADong: so 0 is our chance to lose?
If you previously received a 14 day ban then yeah, that is enough for a perma ban, but it doesn't seem bad enough to skip previous bans; it is definitely punishable though. You could appeal through Riot Support if you have not previously received a 14 day ban, but from what I've heard, they do tend to stick their ground with bans so you might not get anywhere with it. One thing I would like to point out though is that retaliation is not allowed as it is seen as fighting fire with fire, you are being just as bad as the person who started it. If you are likely someone who talks back the moment a player flames you, then, if you make a new account or manage to get this one back, mute all. It will lower the risk of you insulting people or flaming them and risking punishment all over again.
: > [{quoted}](name=kjono1,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4wYXhYGm,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T22:26:22.427+0000) > > I submitted a ticket to Riot 2 days ago and got a person responding to me; this was then followed up by another person when I had additional information to give them. that's new , I might start reusing the riot ticket submission again . > Hiring more people wouldn't resolve the problem due to how high the player base is, there are multiple reports after almost every game and with up to 3 options to choose from on the reporting system, that number is too high to be looked into without the use of a bot. > It would take far too long to get through each report; it would cost too much; it would be inefficient and as a result would most likely ruin the reporting system. In a perfect world, hiring more people would be great, it would be more accurate, but that perfect world would require a smaller player base and less false reports. So what's your solution to improve ?
From a discussion I had earlier: Riot need to update their reporting system. They need to, on occasion, spot check into what the tribunal bot is and isn't punishing and see if it is accurate. They need to add more to the report a player section and change the layout so as to cover more aspects without there being too many options to choose from. For example, using drop downs, where if you were reporting someone for homophobia, the drop downs would narrow down on each option to allow the bot to identify the issue more accurately: | || Drop down 1 || Drop down 2 || Drop down 3 || Drop Down 4 || |:------------------:||:----------------||:-----------||:--------||:--------|| | || **_Player Behaviour_** || **_Verbal Abuse_** || Swearing || Racism || | || Cheating || Intentionally Feeding || **_Hate speech_** || Sexism || | || Offensive Name || Negative attitude || Game play Harassment || **_Homophobia_** || | || || Leaving the game / AFK || || Other (please specify) || Where the bold shows the options selected. Using drop downs could also result in less of the false reports as those in a mood for losing wouldn't spend the time filling it out, where as those genuinely affected would take the 30 seconds to express what the player did. The bot would then be able to learn better as to what is actually intentionally feeding and what is just having a bad game; what is toxicity and what is not, etc.
BgADong (EUW)
: My account got perma banned for literally no reason
Riot do provide the chat logs if you were banned for toxicity, you could head over to the player behaviour section of the boards and paste them, unedited, in a post there and I'm positive people would be more than happy to assist you in understanding what led to you getting punished and if they think the punishment is fair.
: > [{quoted}](name=kjono1,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=4wYXhYGm,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-07-14T21:59:52.607+0000) > > I assume you mean the tribunal bot at the end of the match where you can report a player and not a ticket such as a support ticket where Riot look at the situation itself. no , I mean the Blitz bot who answers your ticket when you submit a ticket for riot support , do try to submit one and see what kind of message will answer you . > The problem is with ensure the bot is accurate and covers all the aspects it needs to. I understand this is meant for the players who int and for those who creatively create new way to type bannable words so they don't get detected , imo they just need to hire more people and increase their pin-point performance rather than relying on a system which has some flaws .
I submitted a ticket to Riot 2 days ago and got a person responding to me; this was then followed up by another person when I had additional information to give them. Hiring more people wouldn't resolve the problem due to how high the player base is, there are multiple reports after almost every game and with up to 3 options to choose from on the reporting system, that number is too high to be looked into without the use of a bot. It would take far too long to get through each report; it would cost too much; it would be inefficient and as a result would most likely ruin the reporting system. In a perfect world, hiring more people would be great, it would be more accurate, but that perfect world would require a smaller player base and less false reports.
Pixelbits (EUW)
: Why does everyone blame the jungle always?
This is actually a thing called _self-serving bias_. You basically refuse to belief it could possibly be your own fault for losing and so you look for someone else to blame. The reason the blame goes to the jungler largely is due to the fact the jungler is the most likely person to come to your lane (ganking). It has nothing to do with the fault being the junglers, it is simply a case of players refusing to accept their own mistakes and failures. This doesn't just happen in gaming, it happens in the real world too, such as blaming the teacher for giving you a bad grade because "they don't like me". These people also tend to praise themselves a lot, "I am so good at this", etc. hence the name self-serving bias. If it supports them in a positive light then to acknowledge it, accept it, emphasise it and take full ownership of it, even if it was a team effort they will praise themselves over everyone else; if it puts them in the negative light, they pass the blame to someone else "yeah, and who's fault is it that I'm like this, yeah, it's yours!" etc.
: It's not tolerance , it's simply the staff is NOT doing their job at all , there seem a lot of employees slacking around the office to the point they created a bot to reply to player's ticket submission .
I assume you mean the tribunal bot at the end of the match where you can report a player and not a ticket such as a support ticket where Riot look at the situation itself. As such, there are not enough staff to monitor every single report that riot receive, hence the need for the bot. I do, however, feel the bot doesn't over all aspects and those it does cover are too wide a range for the bot to pin point exactly. I feel riot need to sort out the reporting system, with occasional spot checks on both those the bot has and hasn't punished to ensure it is correctly punishing those breaking the rules. Currently they categorise everything by hate speech, verbal abuse, negative attitude, etc. But in selecting, for example, hate speech, the bot is going to be looking for homophobic slurs, sexism, racism, and so on; rather than just the one thing you reported. The could easily format it another way such as using drop down, where the first drop down would pick the main category and the second drop down would be the sub category and so on. The problem's not with using a bot itself, asking people to go through every single report that gets made, go through all the chat logs and watch every game; they would be constantly working through a huge back log and your report would not get answered because by the time they got to it, there would be no point punishing the person given how long ago the incident was. The problem is with ensure the bot is accurate and covers all the aspects it needs to.
GreekCake (EUNE)
: Why not?
TFT would be pretty good as a mobile game. I like that idea.
xStyrosx (EUNE)
: 3 FEMALE 1 MALE
I don't understand what the problem is here? They are just champions in a video game, why is gender a factor? But hey, if you want to complain about it, let's look at the stats: *** | Skins | Male | Female | Male % | Female % | | -------------- |:------------:|:------:|:------:|:------:| | 13 | 1 | 0 | 100 | 0 | | 12 | 1 | 1 | 50 | 50 | | 11 | 1 | 5 | 17 | 83 | | 10 | 10 | 5 | 66 | 33 | | 9 | 13 | 6 | 68 | 32 | *** As you can see, 60.5% of champions that have 9 or more skins are male; where as only 39.5% of champion have 9 or more skins are female. We could keep going down the list if you wanted: *** | Skins | Male | Female | Male % | Female % | | -------------- |:------------:|:------:|:------:|:------:| | 8 | 8 | 9 | 47 | 53 | | 7 | 12 | 4 | 75 | 25 | | 6 | 10 | 4 | 71 | 29 | *** And again you can see that there are more skins on male champions than female with 62.2 % of champions with 6 skins and more are male. Overall, it seems that female champions may be under-represented in the number of skins they receive. At the end of the day though, it shouldn't really matter what gender the champion who is getting a skin is. ##_Wouldn't you agree?_
: ***
The boards aren't for naming and shaming, all you can do by posting that picture is give rise to a witch hunt at most.
: A smurf rant
In my opinion, having a smurf on the either your team or the enemy team offers a greater opportunity for improvement as you can see a lot more on what they capitalise on rather than being against someone your same level who makes the same mistakes and doesn't capitalise on your errors. Granted it isn't fun having every game determined by whether there is a smurf in your team or the enemy team, however, it doesn't happen every game. Most games are just you and 9 other people at the same skill level as yourself. So overall, most of your games are based on your performance, with you being the only constant in your games. If you do have a smurf in your games, look at what they are doing and work out how it differs from your play. Just accepting the free win or lose will not help you in the long run, in fact, that game will have little to no impact overall in relation to all your games and their outcomes.
: "I don't care, this is my smurf account"
I honestly don't think that smurfing is a problem; the problem lies with, as you said, those players who take games hostage just to ruin the experience for all other players in the match. > Smurfing In my opinion, smurfing is not a terrible thing. The idea of playing against someone of higher skill level than me where I can then see how they were able to punish me and dominate the lane or with someone on my team who knows what I am doing wrong and could inform me of my mistakes is much more beneficial to improving my game play than someone who is making the exact same mistakes I am because we are the same level. > The problem The problem with smurfing lies more with player behaviour than smurfing itself. Those who take the opportunity to decide games due to their knowledge of how to play are the problem. If you are smurfing to mess around with champions you are uncomfortable with, trying an off-meta strategy in a safer environment etc. but still using your knowledge of the game to play well and attempt to win, then smurf to your hearts content. If you are smurfing to ruin the experience of other players by intentionally losing to stay in the lower ranks, or by bullying those who don't know certain aspects of the game just to fill your ego, then you are bullying, you are breaking the rules of the game and you should be punished for **intentionally** ruining the experience of the other players. > The solution Riot need to update their reporting system. They need to, on occasion, spot check into what the tribunal bot is and isn't punishing and see if it is accurate. They need to add more to the report a player section and change the layout so as to cover more aspects without there being too many options to choose from. For example, using drop downs, where if you were reporting someone for homophobia, the drop downs would narrow down on each option to allow the bot to identify the issue more accurately: | || Drop down 1 || Drop down 2 || Drop down 3 || Drop Down 4 || |:------------------:||:----------------||:-----------||:--------||:--------|| | || **_Player Behaviour_** || **_Verbal Abuse_** || Swearing || Racism || | || Cheating || Intentionally Feeding || **_Hate speech_** || Sexism || | || Offensive Name || Negative attitude || Game play Harassment || **_Homophobia_** || | || || Leaving the game / AFK || || Other (please specify) || Where the bold shows the options selected. Using drop downs could also result in less of the false reports as those in a mood for losing wouldn't spend the time filing it out, where as those genuinely effected would take the 30 seconds to express what the player did. The bot would then be able to learn better as to what is actually intentionally feeding and what is just having a bad game, for example.
: what u want for me riot?
Both teams experience the same issues. What you have to realise, however, is that there is only one constant in every one of your games and that is **you**, yourself. As long as _you_ focus on ensuring _you_ can the best _you_ can and look out for _your own_ mistakes and work to correct them; you'll be fine and climb no bother. If you keep focusing on your teammates mistakes instead of your own, you will **not** help them, you will **not** help yourself and you will do **nothing** more than tilt yourself and in turn make more mistakes **yourself**, which you'll refuse to accept are **your own**, and in turn **you** will contribute more to each loss. Welcome to the self-serving bias my friend
Ember Frost (EUNE)
: Ok so what you are telling me is, I can send a ticket and in the ticket I can leave the persons name in it. Otherwise whats the point of the ticket then ? And i mean comeon i know that you dont want to shame 1 person for something 10 million others do but there needs to be a beter system on how to get rid of people like this. Im still on a low Elo and i have been for a long time now mostly because i stop playing league when people start harrasing so badly that it's in every game. But really being racist towards someone you dont even know and then after all the comes to my lane, and feed the enemy on perpose then tells everyone to call me a fat N****R and he/she will give them free kills. Directly after that he said "I don't care if I get banned because the system is flawed". So any idea what I can do to increase the chance of him getting banned ?
You can name the person in the ticket if you wish as it goes directly to Riot and they can do something with it. Members of the board cannot see this and so the persons privacy remains intact and as such there is no risk of witch hunting. Naming them on the boards, however, is naming them in a place where no action can be taken, as a result you are doing nothing more than bullying, as you are, in effect, personally attacking the player in question by naming them for all to see
Ember Frost (EUNE)
: What's the reason for this board?
You can [submit a ticket](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) to riot to report a specific player. You can also add attachments in your ticket so you can add all the proof you need. The boards themselves are not for naming and shaming. The player behaviour board is pretty much for _discussions_ relating to, well, the behaviour of players. As such, players who are banned or punished tend to come to this board to discuss if the punishment is considered fair. It will also be a place for discussion the general behaviour of the community Pretty much a case of you can talk about anything relating to player behaviour as long as you don't name and shame.
Aiirene (EUW)
: at least read his post {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} he's been pretty positive. i think maybe its a false positive. have riot responded to you yet?
To me, I'd say it falls under the 1st option on the report system: Negative Attitude. The first game isn't that bad at all and granted, they were getting more and more tilted across the 3 games, however, they retaliated by moaning at players throughout the game. The reporting system and punishment system is there to be used against those who ruin the experience intentionally choose to ruin the experience for the other players in the game. This includes **choosing ** to retaliate and complain about other members of the team, it lowers team morale and doesn't help the situation any better. In fact, it makes a bad situation worse. It's understandable that they were frustrated, just by reading the chat logs you can see people were trolling by banning their champ and flaming themselves in game, I'd be frustrated too if it's what I experienced. However, they made an active choice to complain rather than use the system Riot created for reporting (which clearly works since they got punished as a result). Given that this was a permaban, they were likely given a 14-day ban and possibly chat restrictions prior to it; this would have been their final chance to prove themselves and although what they have said might not seem fair in terms of a permaban; they must have been a repeat offender and so Riot has escalated the punishment up from the 14-day ban to the permaban for the negative attitude they expressed in game. In my opinion, it wouldn't warrant a permaban on its own, however, as it is a repeat offence where they have been punished before, I believe it was fair on Riot's part to move up to the next level of punishment.
: By reading what all of you have said, I do believe you're kind of right. The things I personally am a bit salty about is that I didn't get a warning (No chat restriction or anything) and I feel a bit cheated on my money, since the pass is wasted for me. If I got a warning from Riot saying "Hey, stop being toxic or we'll ban you" I would be super kind to my 0/17 yasuo's and not flame anyone, so the problem would be solved, although I understand that wont work in all cases.
I understand the frustration, I would be frustrated too if I got a 14-day ban straight away with no previous chat restrictions. However, everyone is aware that there is a punishment system and there are rules so as much as it feels unfair that you have been punished, you have to remember that you did break the rules and you can't really use the excuse of "I never got a warning" when you know there is this system in place. Granted you teammate was feeding, but you retaliated making the situation worse. Now there is not just someone dying constantly, there is you in the chat moaning to this person instead of focussing on doing the best you can in the game regardless of whether you will win on lose. You are ruining the atmosphere for all of your team, you are making a bad situation worse for the whole team, which makes you equally as guilty as a result. There's a reporting system at the end of game screen where you can report your teammate for intentionally feeding; you know it works because well, the report against you got you banned. With there being this system in place, you have no reason to flame this person during the game; no reason to give them the attention they are looking for; no reason to ruin the game further for your teammates and risk yourself being punished also. Yes, you might want to yell at the Yasuo for ruining the experience for you but remember that you likely won't see them in your next games, so let them ruin their account, let them get themselves banned, but don't risk your own account by reacting to someone else's actions.
: Punishment for toxic behaviour.
The punishment is such a long period of time so that it feels like a punishment. It is there to tell you the type of behaviour you are expressing in the game is not welcome. You either need to follow the rules, or you won't be welcomed back. It is giving you time away from the game to think about whether you want to play the game and as such, be part of the community. On top of that, there is an escalation route for punishments with two chats bans, then 14-day suspension then being permabanned. So you get three warnings - three opportunities to change the way you are behaving - each increasing in severity before you get told you are no longer welcome in the community. On occasion, depending on the severity of which you broke the rules, you could skip specific punishments and go straight to a suspension or permaban if the way you were acting was that bad. You get multiple chances to stop breaking the rules and change; the 14-day suspension is the final warning. It is that long to emphasise that if you continue, Riot will ban you permanently from their game and so to answer your question, the length of time is fair; the punishment isn't too much.
: What new players should be encouraged to do.
Now while the blue essence is available at the start it is more beneficial to smurfs than new players. New players are not being forced into those champions at all; they are given 3 with different kits so that they have the ability to get comfortable with some champions to allow them to focus more on learning the actual game rather than every champion out there, while still giving them the opportunity to switch it up by having more champions to choose from that just the one the 6300 blue essence would have given them. In the interest of learning the basics of the game, having that choice of 3 different champions to create the idea of every game is different, but there are some basics you can learn and focus on, is a better solution than having 1 champion that the person plays constantly and so doesn't grasp those basic ideas as easily.
: Tips to not tilt?
What you need to realise is that you are the only constant in every one of your matches. So if you are winning a lot, you are playing well overall; if you are losing a lot, you are not playing as well overall and have room for improvement. You need to understand that you are just like every other player, you make mistakes, you mess up every so often. Don't take bother about the mistakes others make, they likely won't be in your next games, focus on what you are doing right and wrong yourself. They mess up, in the long run, it's not going to affect your rank or overall level of play; if you mess up, and blame others for their mistakes in-game, rather than your own, you'll never climb as you can't take responsibility for your own actions. Stop focussing on others mistakes because they don't matter at the end of the day. Focus on your own, if it's not you who messed up, then there is no point getting uptight and tilting about it. Edit: To add to this, let whoever you are wanting to flame ruin their account and get themselves banned for their actions; there is no point letting that person that's frustrating you get your account banned because you didn't like the way they were playing in the game. You'll probably never see them again anyway, don't waste your time moaning to them about their actions, risking your own account. Just play your best in the game regardless of what they are doing and that way whether you win or lose you know you did your best and didn't underperform your self by wasting your time complaining to someone who doesn't even care.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ýäśüó,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=m8EaG8xe,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-05-19T19:14:39.366+0000) > > Typicall lol players that talks without knowing anything XD, keep it up bet u'll have lot of friends pal Ironic, coming from someone that doesn't know that stacking reports has no effect, and thus, asks them in chat. Which is considered toxicity.
I wish more people would realise that; it's no wonder the team are performing badly when a player is constantly moaning and then writes in chat "x9 [champion]". The number of reports per game doesn't have an effect on the severity in which the report is taking; 1 report after a game has the same impact as 9 reports. All the moaning does is lower the moral of that player and the rest of the team.
: Wait so did you get banned or not. Assuming you did get banned. In my opinion this isn't bad, but in riots opinion which is the one that matters, it's toxic.
Well, it would definitely fall under the 1st report option - negative attitude. If they are always moaning and flaming like this in-game and regularly getting reported, then yes eventually this negative attitude would get them banned. As it is a permaban they have either removed some of the highly offensive stuff or have been reported so often and followed the punishment system in which they'd of received chat bans then 14-day suspension, then permaban; they will have been given plenty of opportunities to change and didn't.
: Rito needs to start banning people for spamming false reports like before and/or rework the system. I mean if nothing is being done then this will stay the way it is which is extremely sad.
TBH I'd like to see something done about false reports, the pet hate I have with this game is people asking for reports on the player that did bad/ lost lane, even though they were trying to win. Feeding and intentionally feeding seem to get treated as the same thing to a lot of players, with people asking for others to report a player just because they lost lane (even though they recognise the difference when it is them themselves feeding). I'm not surprised the bot is struggling to differentiate when every game or two seems to involve a player asking for another to be reported, and then them putting in a false report. The system needs to be updated but it also needs players to understand how it learns and the difference between inting and feeding.
Jofo2003 (EUW)
: I'm done (unfair leaverbuster)
You seem to be having worse problems than the rest of the community, from reading the constant queue timers you seem to have mentioned in your previous posts, which would suggest it has something more to do with your internet itself rather than riot's servers alone.
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