: Hey buddy, Here's the thing, after the match the Token amount is usually split into two notifications, one saying something like "You got X Tokens for winning on Y game mode" and one saying "You got X Tokens for Y grade". This might've caused some confusion in case the first notification said 8 Tokens and you didn't see the second one. However, if you are positive your total Tokens haven't been properly updated based on the total amount of tokens you had prior to the match and how many you have now (+14), make sure to write to [Support](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) so that they may check if something fishy might've happened. Have a nice day!
Ah, I haven't seen the second one yet, maybe I am just too fast to click off the game! I'll be sure to check if I get all 14 next game even if both don't pop up, thank you for the info!
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Masantha (EUW)
: Odyssey Fan Fiction Contest - Voting Now Closed!
"Malphite's 'rock' music"{{champion:54}} - Jinx's favourite button Is there a vote for best line?
kxs (EUW)
: Lost a promo series because the client froze in champ select and I didn't get to lock in
Edit: My premade in the same selection stage as me (2 at a time) had it happen at the exact same time, also incurring the penalties, before anyone blames it on MY client.
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kxs (EUW)
: Diana Q bugged
Her Q is pretty thick though, it goes at least half a centimetre either side of Camille too, so even if it was slightly off I still don't see how it didn't go through her hitbox. Even if this wasn't a bug, her hitbox needs moving. This is too misleading to not be fixed, as on Diana is matters more than most whether perceptions of an ability 'hitting' are correct, to get the ult reset.
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kxs (EUW)
: Diana Q bugged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knIi6jxbAF8&feature=youtu.be watch it and cry
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: You shouldnt compare everything to worst-case scenarios - A simple curse word goes bleak in comparison to racism and homophobia, but that doesnt make it okay. The other players in this game should not be forced to develop thick skin to accomodate your offensive manners in the heat of battle. Being told to F off can be **very** off-putting for some people, even to the point of ruining the match for them. Please do not respond to that with "Thats their problem, its not that harsh", You should take responsibility for your actions, no matter how minor the offense. No, i do not think you deserve a 14-day ban for saying "f*** off" one match, but i also doubt you'd be banned if this didnt happen more often than that. Try to adjust your way of playing and/or chatting to best accomodate every type of person - Some people, like yourself, fee that cursing is just harmless banter - it might be part of your daily life, you might even use it often in dialogue. But does that mean every other person playing this game feels the same way? Try to keep that in mind when your ban ends and you begin playing again, and perhaps attempt to restrict your coarse language - some people will look for ANY reason to report you once they dislike you (wether it be for taking their preferred role or for misplacing a ward) and cursing is a quick way to get punished. The fact that you think telling someone to "f*** off" is okay shows a lot about just how bad this problem has got in the League community, dont you think? We're getting so desensitivized to bad manners that we're beginning to think of it as acceptable. I dont mean to bash on you or anything, i can imagine how absolutely horrible i would feel if i got a 14 day ban. But your arguments prove you might need an outside view to help improve your behaviour, just like someone did for me a year or two ago. When you get upset and feel like writing to or about someone, stop for a moment and run it through in your head - imagine talking that way to someone you care about, perhaps a parent or significant other. Would you treat them the same way, even when angry? Try looking for a train of thoughts that can keep the negative attitude away, no matter how minor it seems. Even saying "Shut up" a lot can be punished with chat restrictions and even short time bans. It is this strict to accomodate everyone.
Thank you for your point of view. Normall, it would be me in your shoes: helping to give advice to another person about controlling anger. Ive been around onine gaming environments for a large portion of my life and I am no stranger to dealing with verbal abuse and harassment. I always try my best not to react to 'flamers', but it really begins to grate on you when you seem to encounter them during most games in solo queue - people who are obviously not banned - that say far worse things than 'f*** off' - and I'm the one who ends up on the receivng end of the punishment. It really feels like a never ending battle sometimes, and the one time I retaliate, I'm instantly punished - hence why I am angered by the whole situated. It's possible that I've been recently reported before the incident for something very minor, although I would not have sworn at the player, I am very far from perfect and could have said something another player might have found slightly offensive - but I don't see why I wasn't issued a warning through email or in the end-game screen.
Eambo (EUW)
: I can't say I don't, personally, find the system a bit...harsh. Some I've seen I didn't feel deserved two week suspensions. However I assume unfortunately it's due to the fact the system has no "lower level" at this time - it's either a 2 week suspension or a permaban...and I know which I'd prefer from those two. That doesn't help your situation I'm sure, however you seem like an entirely reasonable person capable of understand the reason and requirements for such systems to exist. The LoL community unfortunately has quite a negative reputation, and while it's only a small percentage of the community making up that negative subsection - it's still a mark on the community. I can't say much to help improve the situation, and I don't feel you need a stern telling off or advice on where you went wrong - I think you understand the negativity etc. in place (some people refuse to listen to reason - you don't seem like one of them). My only advice is to try and keep the negativity in check, and keep in mind you *are* playing with other people, and they *will* report you for things like you've mentioned. Even negativity seems to count against you - and it's fairly easy to fall into negativity when others are trying to drag you down into it. Your best utility in this is both the mute function, and the report function. I've had times where I've been angered and been extremely tempted to reply back - especially when I'm simply having a bad game and people are calling for me to be reported by both teams, simply for having a bad game. But self control I guess is the difference between someone becoming a flamer and not. I finish the game, mute who I need to, and move on. Avoid typing back at all costs. A great quote that definitely applies in a lot of LoL situations: > “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” In this instance, the "stupid people" can be replaced with "Flamers/trolls/etc." :-P By responding in kind, you drag yourself down, then end up punished yourself.
Yes as you said, it's completely out of character for me - but of course, we all get annoyed every now and again, I just reacted wrongly this time - which is why I think it was a harsh punishment. Thank you for discussing this with me, I definately agree that Riot should implement a shorter-length punishment for situations like this one.
: There are a whole lot of 'F You's in there. A bit more than F off, no?
I said it once while he/she was actually connected to the game, so said player would not have seen any other versions.
: ***
I'm not denying the fact that toxicity should be punished - I completely agree with it, if a warning is issued beforehand. I received 0 warnings, I was instantly banned after that game, so obviously 'the system is forced to warn you 5 times' is not true. Secondly, by stating that I've spent money on the game was purely to gauge my enjoyment for the game. I completely agree that everyone should face similar consequences regardless of how fat their wallet may be. My ban was incredibly harsh, and whether you agree with it or not, you cannot argue that. I would bet that most players would have told another player to 'stfu' or something similar AT one point during their time on league, which is what I did - hence why I said that if everyone was treated as harshly, it would see a mass drop in players, as EVERYONE who has said "f***' towards someone would also be banned, which would be a huge proportion of players. I agree I was out of line and it was not like me at all, however, I do think that the shortest time someone can be banned for (for 'verbal abuse') is 2 weeks, that is unfair - why is a shorter punishment such as 3 days not in place?
Eambo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=C9 Haì,realm=EUW,application-id=WRrW6N5X,discussion-id=9X0LTrxt,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-07-07T23:38:56.836+0000) > > I understand that it might have been dragged up from other games, but nothing other than that game was included in the chat log, nor have I had the "negative attitude" message in the lobby, or an email regarding it that Riot usually send our before issuing a ban. > > As for my friend, he was banned for idling/afking in games, as far back as either of us could think, that was the only time, we could be mistakes but we could not remember any other times. Normally if suspended you should get an email - your friend could also email to find out. From the log you've uploaded so far, there's quite a bit of negativity. Calling for reports, "muted", "we already lose", etc. Now, that in itself I don't think gets you a suspension - the suspension system is fairly new, so we've yet to really see what sort of things it results in. But that coupled with telling someone to F off is probably what threw you over the edge. Whether I agree with it or not is another matter - negativity sucks in the game, and brings the games enjoyment down for me. Should it be bannable? That's questionable from my end. However telling someone to f*** off, even if a premade, isn't something that'll be encourage. If you were in a full 5 premade it's not so much an issue (unless doing it in all chat), but if you are with 3 other people - they don't know your friends, and they may not appreciate the language =-/
I completely agree that negativity should be punished in the community and I was out of line to say what I did, but I really cannot see how that can sanction a 2 week ban and most likely a ranked/chat restriction to go along with it. I was negative at the start of the game saying that the game was lost due to the AFK, but so was everyone else in the game, so that didn't help the atmosphere nor my emotional state.
Eambo (EUW)
: You told someone to F off...what did you expect? Someone reported you - your premade friend or not. Also I'm pretty sure it's not the result of one game, but a history that has caught up on you - that one just threw it over the edge. It doesn't mean you've always been abusive, but it seems consistent negative behaviour also counts. As for your friend, LeaverBuster doesn't ban - it gives low priority queue for up to 20 minutes for 5 games. If they got a 3 day suspension, it definitely wasn't for that.
> [{quoted}](name=Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=WRrW6N5X,discussion-id=9X0LTrxt,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-07-07T23:34:39.921+0000) > > You told someone to F off...what did you expect? Someone reported you - your premade friend or not. Also I'm pretty sure it's not the result of one game, but a history that has caught up on you - that one just threw it over the edge. > > It doesn't mean you've always been abusive, but it seems consistent negative behaviour also counts. > > As for your friend, LeaverBuster doesn't ban - it gives low priority queue for up to 20 minutes for 5 games. If they got a 3 day suspension, it definitely wasn't for that. Edit: It wasn't my premade friend who I said it to, I got my wires crossed, my bad - he was also in the game, however.
kxs (EUW)
: How to remain as the most played PC game - Ban everyone.
Eambo (EUW)
: You told someone to F off...what did you expect? Someone reported you - your premade friend or not. Also I'm pretty sure it's not the result of one game, but a history that has caught up on you - that one just threw it over the edge. It doesn't mean you've always been abusive, but it seems consistent negative behaviour also counts. As for your friend, LeaverBuster doesn't ban - it gives low priority queue for up to 20 minutes for 5 games. If they got a 3 day suspension, it definitely wasn't for that.
> [{quoted}](name=Eambo,realm=EUW,application-id=WRrW6N5X,discussion-id=9X0LTrxt,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-07-07T23:34:39.921+0000) > > You told someone to F off...what did you expect? Someone reported you - your premade friend or not. Also I'm pretty sure it's not the result of one game, but a history that has caught up on you - that one just threw it over the edge. > > It doesn't mean you've always been abusive, but it seems consistent negative behaviour also counts. > > As for your friend, LeaverBuster doesn't ban - it gives low priority queue for up to 20 minutes for 5 games. If they got a 3 day suspension, it definitely wasn't for that. I dont expect to be banned for 14 days for telling someome to 'f*** off ' - its not that extreme, in relation to racism/homophobia. I understand that it might have been dragged up from other games, but nothing other than that game was included in the chat log, nor have I had the "negative attitude" message in the lobby, or an email regarding it that Riot usually send our before issuing a ban. As for my friend, he was banned for idling/afking in games, as far back as either of us could think, that was the only time, we could be mistaken but we could not remember any other times.
kxs (EUW)
: How to remain as the most played PC game - Ban everyone.
LA Losty (EUW)
: Wow i totally thought you were the real C9 Hai for a second... . . Kappa.
> [{quoted}](name=Nikolai12000,realm=EUW,application-id=WRrW6N5X,discussion-id=9X0LTrxt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-07-07T23:32:12.590+0000) > > Wow i totally thought you were the real C9 Hai for a second... > > . > > . > > Kappa. My job is done then ;)
: Can we see the reform card?
> [{quoted}](name=Jesperr101,realm=EUW,application-id=WRrW6N5X,discussion-id=9X0LTrxt,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-07-07T23:23:05.613+0000) > > Can we see the reform card? I'm on my phone so I'll screenshot it :)
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