Father Tios (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=zTKBam4F,comment-id=0003000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-14T17:55:08.918+0000) > > I'm not asking you to pamper. In fact, if anything you're asking that of others by asking them to speak English. Pampering to whom? People in general? That's dumb. I'm expecting them to follow general good behavior. Speaking in company in a language that is not understood by all is impolite. In a game where communication is somewhat important, it can be straight out harmful for the team. Also: are you actually calling working in a group PAMPERING? What the %%%% then %%%%ou asking everyone to speak the native language of one single person, over of EVERYONE agreeing to speaking a common language....? What the actual %%%%? > %%%%e EU community spans many languages, there a lots of boards for different regions and the such - that's why you don't see so much of it HERE compared to in game. Because it's moved to its respected area. > And...? Does that mean that when you deal with people from other countries you should speak your own language rather than the language that is generally used for communicating with people who don't speak your language? I'm pretty sure these exist for the sole reason of collecting these people into their own forums so they can in-fact speak their own language with people who... YOU KNOW, SPEAK THAT LANGUAGE. You know, so that those who DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH DON'T COME TO THE ENGLISH SPEAKING PLACES, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CHAOS. There is, in-fact a reason why we teach for example immigrants our own language, instead of expecting everyone in the country to learn the immigrants language. Can you figure out why? > All I'm saying is that it's not fair to demand someone to speak English just because you don't understand it, It is completely fair, if the person is trying to operate in an environment where it is expected of you to be able to communicate with foreigners. Even riot itself has promoted the importance of communication: https://youtu.be/Sz2A9Dwgd_A - if it somehow is not obvious. >and automatically assuming that they're talking bad of you because you don't understand it is getting pretty close to xenophobic levels. > > > 99% of the time it's not about you. Did I say ANYTHING about expecting them speaking bad about me? Please specify where? Throwing out 'xenophobia' and 'racism' whenever something foreign is criticized, for any reason, is silly and counterproductive. Do yourself, and everyone else a favor and stop. I don't lob insults at you; why are you doing that to me?
Hello, Father Tios. I didn't want to answer this message because that theme out of my topic (you can read my post attentively). Unfortunately your diolog with "A Snarky Cyclone (EUW)" change the theme of the main post. When you talking about "And my personal experience at least is, that it is more common to have someone lob insults at ME in their native language, than seeing someone flame them for using their native language" - that is prejudice. It's unpleasant to read that "DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH DON'T COME TO THE ENGLISH SPEAKING PLACES, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CHAOS." because if I will travel in EU in general I can speak even with not Russian speaker probably with body language or something else, that isn't problem. Don't cover with a general rules because you speak about you personaly. General, this statemant about "don't go to English place if you don't speak english" - it doesn't make sense. For example, ordinary people don't have knowledge about physics and chemistry science. So may I say to this people "Don't come to the physics knowledge places, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CHAOS". "Throwing out 'xenophobia' and 'racism' whenever something foreign is criticized, for any reason, is silly and counterproductive. Do yourself, and everyone else a favor and stop." - Should I really write all the insults I got?
m3dyz4 (EUW)
: Scream of my soul about racism!
First of all I want to say sorry about my emotional post and thanks all people who read that and responded, especially who added me in game and played with me (ty you for making me feel better). I don't know why some people think that I use Russian language to communicate with people. I am talking about accidental using of wrong keyboard layout (I can do that because I wrote in other websites and messangers on Russian). I am sorry if I irritated some people with this topic and with lack of knowledge of terminology. Yesterday I felt bad because I met a racism... or xenophobia again. I'm emotional person and I accept myself as I am. That's why I wrote it. Thanks for your attention and have a nice day!
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