Doomley (EUW)
: >he has 3 AOE CC abilities 2. His w and r. His e isn't aoe cc or even aoe dmg on champions. >he has mobility He doesn't. >he has a semi global ulti that's not only a huge engage His ult is not an engage. It's either a follow-up cc or a disengage tool. >and he doesnt rely on another chamion to go in Yes he does when you are playing even at a decent level. He is a warden, not a vanguard, which means he is focusing on defending allies by ccing enemies who try to hurt them instead of going in and trying to disturb the enemy backline. >his flash taunt is a potent engage tool on it's own. Which is easy to see coming and has a 5 minute CD. This can't be counted as an engage when talking about his kit. Just had to correct these mistakes.
> [{quoted}](name=Doomley,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=mEourbOc,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-06-23T23:29:47.645+0000) > > 2. His w and r. His e isn't aoe cc or even aoe dmg on champions. > > He doesn't. > > His ult is not an engage. It's either a follow-up cc or a disengage tool. > > Yes he does when you are playing even at a decent level. He is a warden, not a vanguard, which means he is focusing on defending allies by ccing enemies who try to hurt them instead of going in and trying to disturb the enemy backline. > > Which is easy to see coming and has a 5 minute CD. This can't be counted as an engage when talking about his kit. > > Just had to correct these mistakes. gragas's biggest engage is his flash E ult, and that's also a 5 minute CD obviously it's not a malphite ult, but it's good and yes, i didnt mean his R is by itself an engage spell, but it's an engage "tool" in a sense that it helps engages go even better. i guess i misremembered but i thought his E can knock up multiple people if htey're close enough also his R and E are both mobility tools, so saying he doesnt have mobility is kindof wrong hes not riven sure, but he has a dash and a semi global ult
shaunika (EUW)
: why arent teams still not permabanning galio in LCS ?
that's mostly because bjergsen had 0 practice with galio, because TSM didnt realize how OP he was, so they had to pick him cos "hes OP" but bjergsen is just not the type of player to do well on a support tank, and he couldnt play the champ at all, if a champ was so broken that even with zero practice and playing horribly you could win LCS games with him that'd be more of a problem than just a simple ban also, about 90% of engages are completely telegraphed now, which engage isnt, except for gragas E flash, but even that's predictable on an LCS level. let's see he has ludicrous waveclear with just one doran's ring and no other AP items he has no bad lane matchup cos even the few champs that can shit on him(like fiora, rumble or cassio) he can just safely clear the entire wave from far away, and you cant exactly dive him due to his W and E, and even from behind his kit is insanely potent in the lategame hes stupid tanky especially against magic damage he has 3 AOE CC abilities he has stupid damage for a tank he has poke he has mobility he has a semi global ulti that's not only a huge engage/counter engage but also a ridiculous dmg mitigation tool. add to that that you can just flex him mid/top if he gets counterpicked and you got yourself a broken champion and he doesnt rely on another chamion to go in that just makes him even more threatening, his flash taunt is a potent engage tool on it's own. no champ will have 100% winrate in the LCS, but that doesnt mean they cant be stupidly OP
Rioter Comments
: In what elo do you Play? Cause where I Play dia 5-3 he is rarely even banned once. Had 2 games out of 3 against yasuo today aswell. Handling yasuo is not that hard you just Need to know how he works and its easy.
> [{quoted}](name=Dreadlord Mike,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GdkEL8uL,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-13T22:34:23.586+0000) > > In what elo do you Play? Cause where I Play dia 5-3 he is rarely even banned once. Had 2 games out of 3 against yasuo today aswell. > Handling yasuo is not that hard you just Need to know how he works and its easy. dunno, still doing my placements, was plat I last S but as i said, it doesnt matter how well i know how to handle yasuo if my laner who's against him doesnt :P if hes 3-0 by the time i clear my jungle i can do %%%%all
Doomley (EUW)
: Yasuo has a ban rate of 58% in total. Not even near 90%. Yasuo would be banned a lot more often if the bans were given like they used to be given. Now people assume that the enemy will ban him and he is left without a ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Doomley,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GdkEL8uL,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-13T21:52:57.940+0000) > > Yasuo has a ban rate of 58% in total. Not even near 90%. > > Yasuo would be banned a lot more often if the bans were given like they used to be given. Now people assume that the enemy will ban him and he is left without a ban. I've yet to see yasuo not double banned in a single game obviously i havent played THAT many since the patch (like 20 maybe) But legit not once was he not banned in both teams > [{quoted}](name=GPet,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GdkEL8uL,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-06-13T21:39:23.532+0000) > > Can someone explain to me what is the advantage of banning out more champions? > > Because I currently never ban anything because I don't really see an advantage of having a champion banned, apart from it not allowing me to practice with or against them, so basically only a downside. > > The only reason for bans I could see because someone really wants to avoid certain champions... but now they can ban those champions and it's not like they become unbanned in any way. if you want to climb elo, banning certain champions that either snowball way too good(yasuo) or can exploit bad players easily(zac) is a must and then there's also the plain broken champions like galio it's not because i dont want to practice against them/learn to play against them, it's because my team certainly wont
: I think %HP True dmg should be removed from the game
to be fair attack speed reduction items (like frozen heart/randuins) are a counter to vayne's %true dmg, and vayne is garbage tier anyway, she has low as %%%% range you land one CC and she explodes does anyone else even have it?
Rioter Comments
Aeriaaal (EUW)
: Why I don't use the "declare your pick" feature during champion select
this is a shitty move unless ofc they're declaring vayne, then by all means ban away it's statistically better for your team
Rioter Comments
: so youre telling me vlad top is no tank? at lest when i play him he always has 4k HP in the end. same for swain
> [{quoted}](name=je suis dat boi,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZU0P7BPc,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T08:14:24.034+0000) > > so youre telling me vlad top is no tank? at lest when i play him he always has 4k HP in the end. > > same for swain by that logic anything that's not ADC is a tank you do know vlad passive gives him HP for building dmg right? bruisers and tanks are NOT the same maokai is a tank, malphite is a tank vladimir is not. a tank is someone who builds tank items not DMG items with HP on them and noone can get away with building full glasscannon, even ADCs go 1-1,5 def item
: try out zac, gank a lot early. thats FREE ELO! same thing for volibear, farm the jungle, go tank. nobody kills you, you oneshot every squishy. tank meta is boring bullshit.
> [{quoted}](name=je suis dat boi,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ZU0P7BPc,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2016-06-20T21:24:15.877+0000) > > try out zac, gank a lot early. > > thats FREE ELO! > > same thing for volibear, farm the jungle, go tank. nobody kills you, you oneshot every squishy. > > tank meta is boring bullshit. there hasnt been a tank meta for a few weeks now since the triforce rework all i see is irelia fizz swain vlad and stuff on top
: But they're two different games/genres? Its not like we'll compare Pokemon to Call of duty for taking all of their players. If people want to play overwatch? Let them. Considering they're two different styles of games people will more then likely still want to play League. Even if it isn't as much. I actually really like overwatch because I really love TF2. But I still play LoL just as much as I used to since LoL is my go to Moba, not overwatch because it isn't a moba.
> [{quoted}](name=FrostyFracie,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=38h041s2,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2016-06-18T23:14:17.265+0000) > > But they're two different games/genres? > > Its not like we'll compare Pokemon to Call of duty for taking all of their players. If people want to play overwatch? Let them. Considering they're two different styles of games people will more then likely still want to play League. Even if it isn't as much. I actually really like overwatch because I really love TF2. But I still play LoL just as much as I used to since LoL is my go to Moba, not overwatch because it isn't a moba. well they're not exactly different they share a LOT of the same tropes overwatch is a blend between mobas and FPSes and the two games have a huge overlapping target audience.
1iMusic1 (EUW)
: They have to fix dynamic queue by giving people who pick fill an IP boost
> [{quoted}](name=1iMusic1,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=38h041s2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-18T16:36:41.234+0000) > > They have to fix dynamic queue by giving people who pick fill an IP boost yeah cos that totally wouldnt make people who're unqualified to pick fill do it and feed right? rewarding you for picking champions you're not the best at is a horrible design. the only thing that overwatch has over LoL is the fact that games last way less time so you dont have 40 minutes invested in a frustrating loss only 10-15 it's still the same cancer you just have to endure it for less time plus it's way harder to carry games in overwatch since you cant get fed, it needs much more teamwork. and before you come here and say "OMG BUT THIS ONE TIME WITH PHARAH I ULTED THEIR ENTIRE TEAM AND WE WON" a: that will rarely happen against good teams and b: you can do that in lol too :P
Rioter Comments
raps1355 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=shaunika,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=NmTh96aV,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-16T20:45:59.531+0000) > > well there's vlad, veigar, anivia, galio, and maybe cho so it's not that bad Its not tho coz vlad, cho and galio are pretty much used in top mainly and on top of that galio and anivia are like zac/urgot tier no one cares about those. So it IS that bad. Just need a classic mid laner to get a militant ult skin.
> [{quoted}](name=raps1355,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=NmTh96aV,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2016-06-16T23:32:44.304+0000) > > Its not tho coz vlad, cho and galio are pretty much used in top mainly and on top of that galio and anivia are like zac/urgot tier no one cares about those. So it IS that bad. Just need a classic mid laner to get a militant ult skin. vlad is mostly played mid and anivia sees play in LCS so she cant be that bad also "zac tier" hes a great jungler lol.
raps1355 (EUW)
: It needs to be mid as most top laners have nice legendary skins while mid get very little in terms of skins.
> [{quoted}](name=raps1355,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=NmTh96aV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-16T20:37:50.106+0000) > > It needs to be mid as most top laners have nice legendary skins while mid get very little in terms of skins. well there's vlad, veigar, anivia, galio, and maybe cho so it's not that bad
Rioter Comments
Najns (EUW)
: Not surw if you are trolling me right now or not... You know, it's not just about gold. Dmg dealt, wards placed, wards destroyed, pinks placed, objectives,... If you didn't get an S, you didn't play better than an average Kha'Zix player.
> [{quoted}](name=Najns,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yilil5lZ,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-10T19:03:22.715+0000) > > Not surw if you are trolling me right now or not... > You know, it's not just about gold. Dmg dealt, wards placed, wards destroyed, pinks placed, objectives,... > If you didn't get an S, you didn't play better than an average Kha'Zix player. a: if S was average it wouldnt be S b: all of those i did a lot of, i only had low farm, and since the measure has an arbitrary number for "if your farm is not high enough you'll never get S no matter how well you performed" it's not about how well you played, it's about how well played for an S. if farming in that game wasnt the most important since it was action packed and i always had to be somewhere to countergank/gank and since im not a laner i cant farm and kill people at the same time i have to sacrifice one for the other. and i was full build anyway so it didnt even matter why should i have more farm when i dont need more gold? farm is only gold nothing else, so farm shouldnt matter at all, gold should.
Najns (EUW)
: ... Do you even read what I write.? You are NOT COMPARED TO THE VIKTOR MID! You are compared to other Kha'Zix jungle players.
> [{quoted}](name=Najns,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yilil5lZ,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-10T17:51:42.773+0000) > > ... > Do you even read what I write.? > You are NOT COMPARED TO THE VIKTOR MID! > You are compared to other Kha'Zix jungle players. but so is the viktor, or is it just khazix's that are compared? if viktor gets an S+ for dealing similar dmg and getting simialr gold than a khazix jungle than by your logic khazix jungle on average will earn more gold and deal more damage than a viktor mid. that makes no sense.
Najns (EUW)
: No, just because your Viktor got an S+ doesn't mean you should too. Again, you are NOT compared to your teammates. You are compared to other players playing the same champion in the same role. Not to your team, not to the enemy team. For example, maybe if you doal the same dmg and have a score of 35/0/20 with Jinx and with Lulu, you might get and S+ with Lulu but not with Jinx. Why.? Because you are compared to other Lulu and Jinx players, not to each other.
> [{quoted}](name=Najns,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yilil5lZ,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-06-10T17:42:47.084+0000) > > No, just because your Viktor got an S+ doesn't mean you should too. > Again, you are NOT compared to your teammates. You are compared to other players playing the same champion in the same role. Not to your team, not to the enemy team. > For example, maybe if you doal the same dmg and have a score of 35/0/20 with Jinx and with Lulu, you might get and S+ with Lulu but not with Jinx. Why.? Because you are compared to other Lulu and Jinx players, not to each other. so a khazix jungle should deal way more damage and earn way more gold in a game than a viktor mid?
Najns (EUW)
: You're not compared to your teammates but to other players playing the same champion in the same role.
> [{quoted}](name=Najns,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=yilil5lZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-10T16:37:05.116+0000) > > You're not compared to your teammates but to other players playing the same champion in the same role. still if i have the same damage done and gold earned as the S+ viktor in my team, then maybe im not an A?
Rioter Comments
: Can we have Iceborn back Ezreal?
it's not even because of ezreal that the item is getting nerfed it's because literally every single toplaner builds it. along with {{item:3068}} {{item:3065}} every game every toplaner every time.
: If You Could Play Any Game For the First Time Again What Would You Pick?
World of Warcraft (vanilla) most definitely, that wasnt a game, that was a whole new world.
: So now even going full tank and have practically 0 offensive stats is OP. {{champion:33}} Ok. Surely, if RioT REALLY wants AD champs to become OP again, that's the way to go. I hope they won't however.
> [{quoted}](name=Sarchiapon,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=NrqQHEuj,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-04-06T07:57:56.816+0000) > > So now even going full tank and have practically 0 offensive stats is OP. {{champion:33}} Ok. > > Surely, if RioT REALLY wants AD champs to become OP again, that's the way to go. I hope they won't however. i specifically said im not sure if it's OP or not, only that every single toplaner atm builds those 3 items allways. and riot usualyl doesnt like that.
Rioter Comments
xTheMaker (EUNE)
: Astrounaut Jarvan IV!
might as well be called jarv armstromg
Allosen (EUW)
: What exactly does it take to get an S Rank as Support ?
play janna put shield on adc enjoy your S just dont die
Scuttle (EUW)
: Why do people barely play karma
her damage kinda falls off a lot lategame and her teamfight isnt THAT great since she cant really get to the squishies but shes still okay. shes a huge lanebully with a lot of utility.
Rioter Comments
: I get flamed because of my gender ;-;
> [{quoted}](name=Bonny Jessica ,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=dHZxLW4x,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-03-18T10:41:11.319+0000) > > uhh.. I was playing yesterday, some normals.. and i missplayed and then it all happend. > "go back to kitchen you whore" > "this game isnt for females stop playing" > "fucking retard, who let you leave the kitchen" > > and many more :/ > > I was forced to play vs bots due to that reason because people dont flame there.. > > my question.. why do people pay attention to gender? ;o > and why didnt this people get punished even tho i reported them :/ how did they know you were a girl in the first place? also why does it matter if they flame you for being a girl or flame you in general, it's still flame, you either handle it or you dont, dont bring sex into this, it's just an easy way to get to you once they know it. people will usualyl flame in a way they know it's gonna get the most attention, it's not really about sex, it's just about upsetting you.
Kultaan (EUNE)
: I am simply done..
> [{quoted}](name=Flù,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=1AXdFeIk,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-03-16T22:07:26.029+0000) > > Why don't you implement a system, that flamers and trolls should play with each other, and those of us who are friendly and game oriented, have matches on our own? Is it that hard? that's a horrible idea and you know it, the whole point is so people stop trolling/flaming, this system would just create even more of them. then again i mostly agree with you that soloQ is basically unplayable on gold-plat atm (dont know about higher/lower never been there in years highest ive been is D5 in s4, then i sort of burned out and i just do plat for the icon and the border plus getting that isnt a struggle. not because you cant climb, you can if you're better but every game is an agonizing grind where people care more about talking shit than actually playing the game. but dont quit if you love the game, just play normals with friends, like me, i barely play ranked anymore, but i love doing normals.
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: And I got 60% win rate as Tank Akali. That's 6 out of 10 games end up in a win. This includes games I throw on purpose. She is not Over Powered, she is finally playable even if the enemy buys pink wards. Also, she is not braindead, it takes time to learn how to use her. Ps, that "counterbuild" is quite bad, and it won't help you :) Tank Akali does 50% AD damage and 50% AP damage. Split pretty much equal.
> [{quoted}](name=Serika Zero,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=4tAEAEEy,comment-id=0008000000000001,timestamp=2016-03-12T18:47:33.443+0000) > > And I got 60% win rate as Tank Akali. That's 6 out of 10 games end up in a win. This includes games I throw on purpose. > She is not Over Powered, she is finally playable even if the enemy buys pink wards. > > Also, she is not braindead, it takes time to learn how to use her. Ps, that "counterbuild" is quite bad, and it won't help you :) Tank Akali does 50% AD damage and 50% AP damage. Split pretty much equal. bruiser akali is probably one of the most brainless characters out there, it doesnt even have the risk of "well if i go in too early i get instakilled" of AP akali, you just mash your buttons and tank stuff :P
: If I recall it correctly you require 18 champs to play draft, with currently 3 bans each side this means in a lastpickscenario 6 champs are banned and 9 are picked leaving u at a choice between 3 champs that won't probably even fit the role you are supposed to fill. This is no problem you will encounter often, ofc, but it is an unnecessary limitation to the newer players. By raising the number of bans the number of champs you have to own has to increase accordingly, meaning newer players will find it even harder to join draft which imo represents the actual league experience (screw mirrors). Apart from that, 6 bans are enough tbh. usually there are like 2-3 picks that are arguably op on the current patch and part of getting to a higher elo is improving at the game, meaning also to learn how to deal with these "op" champs.
> [{quoted}](name=The Weavel,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Jq11rUV2,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-03-11T07:48:42.967+0000) > > If I recall it correctly you require 18 champs to play draft, > with currently 3 bans each side this means in a lastpickscenario 6 champs are banned and 9 are picked leaving u at a choice between 3 champs that won't probably even fit the role you are supposed to fill. > > This is no problem you will encounter often, ofc, but it is an unnecessary limitation to the newer players. By raising the number of bans the number of champs you have to own has to increase accordingly, meaning newer players will find it even harder to join draft which imo represents the actual league experience (screw mirrors). > > Apart from that, 6 bans are enough tbh. usually there are like 2-3 picks that are arguably op on the current patch and part of getting to a higher elo is improving at the game, meaning also to learn how to deal with these "op" champs. if you only got 18 champs maybe it's too early to play ranked. also, more bans would be a welcome change for multiple reasons: a: if we had 5+5 bans every team member would get to ban which is better b: the amount of champs and their diversity would slightly increase c: in pro play, having more bans just opens up more strategies since you can ban out all the counters and do some whacky poke comp or something which is nice and anyway dota has 5 bans with like 15 less champs.
IAmWoralo (EUW)
: What jungler to pick into tanky enemy
elise is really good for example or just pick trundle and laugh at tanks. shyvana might also work but you cant really fall behind on her.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: Riot, I think the Patch notes is broken. I dont see Guinsoo´s rageblade anywhere.
honestly i wanted a zzroth nerf way more that item should never exist let alone be viable in anything but gimmicky builds/champs right now you can build it on any tank in the game and it'll basically win your lane while you're not even there. even if it's not necessarily "OP" persay, it makes the meta stagnant, boring and just flat out uninteresting.
: How to balance the dmg of tank champs
tanks with tank items dont do THAT much dmg (aside from nautilus and gragas both of whom are a little too strong) bruisers with titanic hydra, steraks and stuff deal a lot of dmg, that's mainly because titanic hydra is a little too good you can basically build that and tanky items on anything(even katarina) and they work.
ONE Balou (EUW)
: Why Solo Queue is needed
IF one of you is diamond and the other is gold you have no business playing ranked together, that would just not bode well for a lot of people just play normals if you want to play together.
: 56% Win rate, 40% pick rate
shes not really OP her winrate stems from 2 different things: shes really really good at that one thing she does(peel) shes easy as fuck to play
: One of the reasons I'm maining jungle this season... not because I necessarily enjoy it the most, but I feel I actually have some control over the outcome of the game. Top lane is basically an island where you have to pray your allies don't feed.
> [{quoted}](name=Xenos11111,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=qHAdgEEr,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2016-02-29T17:56:28.084+0000) > > One of the reasons I'm maining jungle this season... not because I necessarily enjoy it the most, but I feel I actually have some control over the outcome of the game. > > Top lane is basically an island where you have to pray your allies don't feed. top lane is really influental atm actually, if you cant carry consistently as top you're doing it wrong, thanks to zzroth portal and/or banner you can leave lanes and roam freely, you can have a high impact teleport every few minutes, or just play some good roaming champ like quinn. and if yoU're playing bruisers/tanks you can single handedly carry teamfights in mid/late.
: Every skillshot is now global. Who will you main?
karthus I can just farm anywhere on the whole map, ult when needed to and prevent pushing with infinite Qs.
: Some people just have lack of awareness and don't realize immediately. About not communicating could be a sign of frustration from previous games where other players abused that one simply because he was having a bad game. Its a common sign by many players, and causes lots of frustration and anger. Your situation show that you don't care about that players background, of what he has been through. Don't judge a cow before you milk it.
> [{quoted}](name=C9 Intreductor,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=enVxFylH,comment-id=0009000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-02-26T21:05:19.648+0000) > > Some people just have lack of awareness and don't realize immediately. About not communicating could be a sign of frustration from previous games where other players abused that one simply because he was having a bad game. Its a common sign by many players, and causes lots of frustration and anger. Your situation show that you don't care about that players background, of what he has been through. Don't judge a cow before you milk it. if you cant notice 50 million flashing red lights with loud noises maybe a competitive multiplayer game isnt for you. also, it doesnt matter what happened in the last game, it's your responsibility to handle each game as it's own entity and not bring your baggage through, that is exactly what makes people toxic frustration from their last game cos they cant let it go. if you're so frustrated that it affects your gameplay you shouldnt play ranked, that's just common sense, if you do that you're reducing your and your teams chance to win. and yes if you're stubborn to the point where it literally loses your game THAT IS intentionally feeding, inentional feeding isnt just "ok im gonna literally keep walking into the turret and die over and over while spamming chat and confessing to feeding" it's also just a complete lack of any kind of will to win the game, to work with your team, and overall ignorance and apathy to the other 4 players in your team WHICH ARE REPORTABLE, read the summoner's code, intentionally not working with your team to win IS AGAINST THE RULES. a common sentence from these kindof players is "k im done" whenever someone says that in a competitive, ranked game they're already intentionally losing the game, because their whole mentality just brings down the team, and will basically turn them into tunnel visioning idiots that as i said dont care about winning the game anymore keep in mind i am talking about ranked games only here, i dont give a fuck what you do in normals, but in ranked you bring a 100% or dont join at all(by which im not saying you cant feed, if you keep dying under your turret while playing passive and getting dove cos you got snowballed on early i dont care, but if you keep pushing the enemy under his turret DESPITE dying to him and getting ganked 2-3-4 times by the same thing(especially if its telegraphed by wards and countless pings), at that point it's obvious you dont want to win)
Stell (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=shaunika,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=vLMhjOb1,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-02-25T16:42:56.626+0000) > > well im trying to find what champ i can do well with on other lanes > because i cant queue support secondary even though im a great support because riot royally fucked up the queue system, so im trying to find the best pick to play mid how come you can't queue as support? I only play top and support and currently sitting with almost 70% with my main support and main top lane
> [{quoted}](name=Stell,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=vLMhjOb1,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2016-02-25T18:14:00.530+0000) > > how come you can't queue as support? I only play top and support and currently sitting with almost 70% with my main support and main top lane because i dont want to play support EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME i enjoy jungle way more, so if i want to playj ungle i have to queue something else as secondary otherwise i might as well give up on ever playing jungle.
Stell (EUNE)
: you still have 55% win rate after 50 games with your main jungler so i don't find a problem there, then you have some champs you've tried 2-3 times, multiple of them. How about you learn another lane with 1-2 champs and then try again ? edit: what i mean is that then you wouldn't have to just pick some random stuff you are not really used to if you don't get your main role
> [{quoted}](name=Stell,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=vLMhjOb1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-02-25T16:16:26.476+0000) > > you still have 55% win rate after 50 games with your main jungler so i don't find a problem there, > then you have some champs you've tried 2-3 times, multiple of them. > > How about you learn another lane with 1-2 champs and then try again ? > > edit: what i mean is that then you wouldn't have to just pick some random stuff you are not really used to if you don't get your main role well im trying to find what champ i can do well with on other lanes because i cant queue support secondary even though im a great support because riot royally fucked up the queue system, so im trying to find the best pick to play mid and i cant really learn a new lane because if i queue normal i stomp my lane 90% of the time, but on ranked people are actually able to play their lanes now. i swapped to top instead of mid secondary now and we'l see how that goes. but it's still infuriating that i cant play support even though im just as good with it as with jungle. i can actually play all those champs i went 1-3 games with, ive played each of them dozens of times (ziggs was my go to mid previously when i sometimes had to play it) it's not like i randomly started playing them, ive been playing all of them regularly since the game's been out just rarely in ranked because i didnt need to. also adcs are really important now in s6 thanks to all the buffs, the better adc wins almost every time, just watch, yes sometimes top carries but a good adc will deal with a good top. and dont look at statistics look at my match history, i shouldnt have only 55% on eve, last season i still had 60% with her when i was plat 1 let alone shitty plat V. but im losing multiple games with 10+ kills and assists and 3-5 deaths while topping dmg done all the time.
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: This scenario is extremly hypothetical nature. How would he be able to move into the fountain over and over again without doing it on purpose by bypassing all the prior turrets etc. If it happens in the endgame, your team is most likely killing the nexus anyway. But this is totally not the scenario we started debating over. You said something about laning and farming and dying because of that. And this is not reportable. I was talking about guys who do everything in their ability to move and get killed without defense. And this over and over and over. What i want to point out is that people are WAY to fast with their "feed" accusation. Exactly because they belive that if somebody is not reacting to pings he's a feeder. And that's bullsh*t. Those reports will never pass and your report rating will decrease.
> [{quoted}](name=ThisOneDiesALot,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=enVxFylH,comment-id=00090000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-25T15:32:02.464+0000) > > This scenario is extremly hypothetical nature. How would he be able to move into the fountain over and over again without doing it on purpose by bypassing all the prior turrets etc. If it happens in the endgame, your team is most likely killing the nexus anyway. > > But this is totally not the scenario we started debating over. You said something about laning and farming and dying because of that. And this is not reportable. I was talking about guys who do everything in their ability to move and get killed without defense. And this over and over and over. What i want to point out is that people are WAY to fast with their "feed" accusation. Exactly because they belive that if somebody is not reacting to pings he's a feeder. And that's bullsh*t. Those reports will never pass and your report rating will decrease. not reacting once is okay, not reacting twice is questionable, not reacting 3-4 times to the same thing just means you dont care about your team, your game and in general anything but your own selfish play, which IS AGAINST THE SUMMONER'S CODE AND IS REPORTABLE. i didnt say if someone dies once i report, i specifically stated "over and over" and to a particular scenario, if he keeps dying under his own turret cos he fucked up and now hes being snowballed i dont care and he should not be reported. but that's not what im saying at all.
: _"i clearly ment not trying to win with the word "care""_ And i never try to win when i play. And still, you can't report me for that. _"blindly pushing a lane and dying every minute even when everyone else is communicating to you that you need to back out is."_ And it's STILL not reportable. If someone is bad at sit awareness, you CAN NOT report him for that. You can't tell that this person is doing it on purpose. There was a report about "bad gaming" and it was removed. Because exactly of THIS scenario. You can't just tell that a person is doing it on purpose and is "not trying to win". You can't tell this because you would need to read people's minds! Stop reporting people becase *you belive* that they do something on purpose. It's nonsense.
> [{quoted}](name=ThisOneDiesALot,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=enVxFylH,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-25T07:48:59.292+0000) > > _"i clearly ment not trying to win with the word "care""_ > And i never try to win when i play. And still, you can't report me for that. > > _"blindly pushing a lane and dying every minute even when everyone else is communicating to you that you need to back out is."_ > And it's STILL not reportable. If someone is bad at sit awareness, you CAN NOT report him for that. You can't tell that this person is doing it on purpose. There was a report about "bad gaming" and it was removed. Because exactly of THIS scenario. You can't just tell that a person is doing it on purpose and is "not trying to win". You can't tell this because you would need to read people's minds! Stop reporting people becase *you belive* that they do something on purpose. It's nonsense. by that logic i could just keep walking into the fountain and die and you couldnt report me because you cant tell if im doing this on purpose, what if im so bad that i dont even know that kills me?
: _"at worst it's refusing to communicate which is also reportable"_ there is a mute optoin. i may mute right at the beginning of the match. i also may not say any thing during the whole game. this is allowed. so it's not reportable. _"its not caring about winning, and that's also reportable."_ i never care about winning in my games. and it's NOT reportable. because you would have to read peoples minds to know what they care about. but go ahead and report "feeders" who are actually guys with a bad play. you will render your reports useless. feel free.
> [{quoted}](name=ThisOneDiesALot,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=enVxFylH,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-24T21:43:54.722+0000) > > _"at worst it's refusing to communicate which is also reportable"_ > there is a mute optoin. i may mute right at the beginning of the match. i also may not say any thing during the whole game. this is allowed. so it's not reportable. > > _"its not caring about winning, and that's also reportable."_ > i never care about winning in my games. and it's NOT reportable. because you would have to read peoples minds to know what they care about. > > but go ahead and report "feeders" who are actually guys with a bad play. you will render your reports useless. feel free. please dont go into semantics, i clearly ment not trying to win with the word "care" and refusing to communicate IS very much reportable. not saying anything isnt refusing to communicate, blindly pushing a lane and dying every minute even when everyone else is communicating to you that you need to back out is.
: _"if 4 people are pinging you back because they plain see 3-4 guys coming for you and you keep farming and pushing your lane and then die that's intentional feeding in my book"_ That will render your feeding reports into complete nonsense. IT IS NOT INTENTIONAL FEEDING. Intentional feeding is running into the enemy tower without fighting over and over and over again. Running into the enemy base, placing a ward there just to die, respawn, teleport to the ward in the base and instadie again over and over again. THIS is intentional feeding. Not getting away from your lane even thou you have been warned is probably an expression of inferior situation awareness. BUT IT IS NOT FEEDING. Stop reporting people for being dumb! Report people for being toxic, but not for being dumb! Calling someone a feeder because of that situation will give you only a report for toxic behavior by me if I would be on your team. Stop bulling others who are just BAD at this game, just because YOU think you are the ubergod. You are not.
> [{quoted}](name=ThisOneDiesALot,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=enVxFylH,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2016-02-24T09:18:11.168+0000) > > _"if 4 people are pinging you back because they plain see 3-4 guys coming for you > and you keep farming and pushing your lane and then die > > that's intentional feeding in my book"_ > That will render your feeding reports into complete nonsense. IT IS NOT INTENTIONAL FEEDING. Intentional feeding is running into the enemy tower without fighting over and over and over again. Running into the enemy base, placing a ward there just to die, respawn, teleport to the ward in the base and instadie again over and over again. THIS is intentional feeding. > Not getting away from your lane even thou you have been warned is probably an expression of inferior situation awareness. BUT IT IS NOT FEEDING. > > Stop reporting people for being dumb! Report people for being toxic, but not for being dumb! Calling someone a feeder because of that situation will give you only a report for toxic behavior by me if I would be on your team. > > Stop bulling others who are just BAD at this game, just because YOU think you are the ubergod. You are not. there are degrees if you care so little about the game that you're gonna ignore your entire team and just keep dying over and over to the same shit despite EVERYONE teling you exactly what'll happen and you just let it happen anyway, you might as well be doing it intentionally. at worst it's refusing to communicate which is also reportable being bad is: missing skillshots or messing up positioning etc, dying multiple times after 15-20 seconds of straight pings and "B"s from your team is not "being bad", its not caring about winning, and that's also reportable.
: Top Tank Akali...
wait till you see tanky bruiser katarina just had one go something like 20/8/x in a plat V game against a fiora who got 2 kills on her early cos i ganked then i instantly ganked the TP too.
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