Rioter Comments
: I NEED HELP
listen to this and play ,works every time.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnE4vF9CQ4 [](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wnE4vF9CQ4)
: vayne + bloodrazor + botrk + rageblade = todally broken
Yea crap like vayne is always OP, patch after patch....
ValiGuy (EUNE)
: ping problems
Yea started happening to me as well .
Krkio (EUNE)
: Rito plz a blood moon yasuo skin?
they are biased towards certain champs , doubt it...
Shiroe x (EUW)
: I think seeing them in action (skin spotlight) and actually playing him first hand is completely different. i personally think he's going to be very fun mid lane. Ult sniping hell yes! (if i can hit it)
im sorry to see that ultii , though it may be good but it is a rip of from a HON hero. his mid lane may be decent.
: > you know of teemo, right ? > i see no difference in his ulti and the flower other then the delay... And because it is similiar to teemos shrooms it is not a ability/mechanic??? I don't think so! Also the flowers bloom at every kill and not only at ulti kills, so it has nothing to do with the ult. They are the passive from his E.
no i state it is not any more unique or new.... sure the blooming thing is , but other then that he kit is bland...
Shiroe x (EUW)
: Wait to give opinions AFTER you have played him.
its not about playing him , its just that his abilities are bland and nothing new....
: > and as for him killing people and a flower popping out is more of a show filler then an actual ability/mechanic. Are you kidding me? It slows, reveals and does damage, but is no ability/mechanic but more a "show filler"???
you know of teemo, right ? i see no difference in his ulti and the flower other then the delay...
Airfro (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=silvershadow09,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=fFEBx9nr,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-01-12T19:47:37.308+0000) > EDIT : > Quote: Rhykes > "I find it rather odd that there's almost nothing "artistic" about his playstyle, his kit, appearance, or graphics. I'm assuming he has unique taunt interactions with a few champions, but beyond that, the teaser seems... amazing but totally irrelevant. > > I don't see why they didn't add something like getting a Killing Blow with an R bullet summons a tree on the enemy's corpse that grants a small amount of vision and slows around them for a couple seconds. It would be more unique than yet another super-long range skillshot ult, and would help tie the teaser with the champion more. > > Disappointed, but at least he looks more engaging than other marksmen... not that that is particularly hard to do." > - and i agree with him.... taken from Surr @ 20 (http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/01/red-post-collection-jhin-discussion.html) Gypsylord commented there is a passive on E that is missing from the reveal: "2 thoughts: A) The reveal is missing something that got locked in too late for localization. "Beauty in Death - Killing blows spawn a blooming flower on the corpse that reveals and slows enemies nearby before detonating for damage." B) A virtuoso is a person highly skilled in music OR another artistic pursuit. Jhin's artistic pursuit is the art of killing. Part of this is about making the death beautiful. Part of this is about accuracy and planning. Everything has to come together for the perfect performance." He continued, clarifying that is only on champions: "No just champions. It would get waaaaaaay too noisy if it worked on minions." He also clarified that passive is on his E ability. "It's tied to his E, all about dah flowers" As for why this wasn't ready in time for the reveal, he noted: "Had been planning to add SOMETHING for deaths for a while. Just couldn't figure out what the heck the right mechanic would be. Jinx's Get Excited passive was similar. I knew she NEEDED something to make her manic and crazy but I couldn't figure out the right mechanic for weeks."
He is still pretty basic... like said his Q and E are dumbed down versions of other champs/heroes. there is no certain uniqueness to him as portrayed in his trailer.... and as for him killing people and a flower popping out is more of a show filler then an actual ability/mechanic.
DELDE115 (EUW)
: Well his traps are a mix of Caitlyns yordle traps and Teemo´s shrooms sooooo. Yeah, nothing more to add I guess.
A Ocean (EUW)
: Hmmmmmmm, because his W and R have the range of a Lux ult? And it's not like he can't root people. Or set up 38945734 slowing traps. He needs ONE weakness, come on.
i doubt his "lux ulti W" will deal good damage.... also the traps are pretty bland for this meta . he has 0 escape and looks like a mix of {{champion:17}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:104}} also his ulti is taken from a hero from HON.. not that it matters but it is disappointing....
irakaxe (EUW)
: there really was a huge hype, but riot didnt manage to deliver, It looks like riot threw {{champion:51}} and {{champion:104}} in a blender, and jhin was the result edit: also a bit of {{champion:21}}
I feel like his trap resembles teemo more then cait , cause its invisible and does damage.... so its more like {{champion:17}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:21}}
DELDE115 (EUW)
: you know, I kinda felt the same. But thats what happens when people create too much hype *****cough cough***** brofresco *****cough cough***** Redmercy *****cough cough*****
I agree they did crate alot of hype as i too watched there videos , but alas it was really disappointing seeing his reveal. They really had nothing else to work with other then a bouncing bullet and a trap , wtf riot you can do better....
JNVG (EUW)
: Yasuo or Fizz
get fizz , easy play style , OP if practiced. yasuo is weak atm.
Sayainji (EUW)
: He can be easily countered.. 1- once he's stunned he has no mobility 2- he is an easy target when he uses ult 3- in a 1v1 against jinx for example he would lose because he can't stack attack speed 4- His ult is wisely to be used after a teamfight to clean, just like Caitlyn This is just my assumptions based on what I have read in the champion skills.
his ulti i a petty skill if used to clean up , but i assume he would be dead most of the time.... he has a poor clone of a trap compared to caits....atleast she has charges and can set up ample amounts of traps. no escape , and no AS / CRIt , the current meta right now...
: {{champion:21}} ,{{champion:51}} & {{champion:104}} had a threesome. Guess what happened? A wild Jhin appeared.
yea which is sad cause graves still cant have his cigar...
: Caitlyn and Jhin have same kind of Ultimates (Long range pew), but I think the differences end there. Caitlyn has a targetted bullet flying towards an enemy champ, which can go into a global range (also 360 degrees). Jhin has 4 shots, that are skillshots, has a limited range and he has to set the direction where to shoot. The damage is different too (Caits base AD + % of bonus AD compared to Jhins base AD + % of AD + % of missing health and the 4th one is a crit)
> end there. Caitlyn has a targetted bullet flying towards an enemy champ, which can go into a global range (also 360 degrees). Jhin has 4 shots, that are skillshots, has a limited range and he has to set the direction where to shoot. The damage is different too (Caits base AD + % of bonus AD compared to Jhins base AD + % of AD + % of missing health and the 4th one is a crit)< yea that is the same as HON heroes 2nd or 3rd skill , which is not that of a perfectionist skill.... his Q and E are just disappointing in general.... they got no uniqueness as to the way he was portrayed coming out... a bouncing bullet ( wow ) and a generic trap...
Rioter Comments
JDM as Fuk (EUNE)
: This is League, huh?
meh bad games happen...... i have literally seen worst.
madza12 (EUNE)
: Why is trying out champions on ranked and instantly locking them without any experience not punished
i agree its BS to see some one with 0 experience join a ranked game for the first time...
iRLoLiR (EUW)
: Middle East Server
that would be soo good , but its Riot...
Perilum (EUW)
: And what he does need for CDR? Oh right, he can spam his abilities without CDR. And his AS scales...
CDR is always welcome noting wrong with it. his windwall and ulti will be ready sooner ,so thats good...
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: the more you know........ reaching 100% crit on ADCs require 4 big items. Something along the lines of: {{item:3508}} 3600g + {{item:3094}} 2600g + {{item:3046}} 2800g + {{item:3031}} 3600g You can replace IE with a cheaper 2600g item while losing the AD from it. Or you can get the 3 {{item:3094}} {{item:3087}} {{item:3046}} +{{item:1051}} for 100% crit. All while having no AD, and the {{item:3094}} extra damage does not stack with {{item:3087}} making these 2 items a bit redundant. Regardless, of such, its still a 2600+2600+2800+400 build. 8400g. Yasou gets {{item:3087}} + {{item:1018}} 2600+800=3200g and 100% crit :) So, he gets to this power spike MUCH quicker than ADCs. 5000g faster. And that's the current issue with Yasou, sadly. #THEMOREYOUKNOW
yea but adc are ranged which is a big deal since you crit on every attack from the comfort of the back line while the tank peels for you. also if you get hurricane ,ER ,IE and statik you easily get DPS and crit , its a win win . though it may need more money but it is worth it and OP. mind you , yasuo is a melee champ who is squishy AF , he gets shut down easy cause he has to go in to fight and cant attack from a safe range unlike jinx , cait and others.
Serika Zero (EUNE)
: Yasou's CDR? His Q CDR scales with his Attack speed. Getting a {{item:3087}} and a {{item:3086}} or another AS item will automatically put you at max Q CDR. His E cooldown is practically 0.1 seconds............................. you can't get lower than this. His R has less than 1 minute cooldown, there's mages with 45% CDR and they can't reach that. While Yasou, without a single CDR item will have his ultimate up as often as a 40% CDR Lux. And that Lux had to buy CDR. His windwall would be the only spell that would actually benefit from CDR. While the rest of his kit got insanely low cooldowns. So, don't talk about CDR when you are talking Yasou. Its an insult to every single player that actually needs CDR on their mains. And rofl, MS. Buy {{item:3078}} There you go, now you got MS, the zeal part of this build together with SS will put you at 100% crit rate. Albeit slower than the SS+IE, for {{item:3087}} +{{item:3086}} You need 2600+1300 (3900g).
yea the cdr for his ulti and wind wall would be nice , also why would any yasuo player get trinity ? just why ?? yea his Q only scales of AS nothing else.....
Perilum (EUW)
: You need a full build to get 100% crit. You only need a Shiv to get 100% for Yasuo with runes or one extra crit item. You see the flaw in your argumentation?
that is because yasuo was made that way....also even with those 2 items he does not get the CDR and MS and AS. while adcs get these major bonuses so yea its pretty OP to have all those tings and not get reduced crit as well.
: No , cause in order to have 100% crit on any champion with 3 items these items should be something like {{item:3046}} {{item:3094}} {{item:3087}} - still no 100% crit ( only 90) . And this build path has NO AD AT ALL till item 4 , Yasuo on the other hand gets{{item:3031}} {{item:3087}} = AD , AS ,100% CRIT
You know there is an item called Essence Reaver , its quite popular. IT gives you 30% cdr as well , some thing which yasuo doesnt get with his build. With that coupled with IE and statik and hurricane you get an easy 100% crit , AS DPS CDR MS. which is very OP. yasuo dosent get half of these things. #themoreyouknow it was certainly flawed off you to not add any damage item in you list....
: I didn't know you can get 100% crit on any champion with 2 items .. enlighten me
but it is possible.... and for a ranged champ to have 100% with 3~ items is NOT OP ?
ChiTenshi (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=D4RKEVA,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=GBAG5Kbc,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-01-09T16:36:43.284+0000) > > he is balanced atm ... his crit passive is his identity thats why they dont nerf it. " Only weak minded people " u mean people who actually think about the game and are mostly higher elo then the average player? No, no, no, no. Yasuo is actually Underpowered atm but Riot can't buff anything about him because of his stupid Passive. If they give him even an inch, he shoots into Overpowered mode. His kit is simply Broken due to 1 Ability. Just because it's part of a champions identity doesn't mean you just don't do anything to it. That's just a recipe for disaster in itself. I say 'Weak-minded' as in those who can't think for themselves and just grab someone else's opinion (and it's shocking how many people actually do this). If you can think for yourself, and you think Yasuo is Balanced; good job, you are most likely smart (I don't agree with your opinion, but you can think for yourself).
Yea but giving him MR scaling would be that bad ? He is a fighter. or buffing his Q time ?
: maybe if they remove crit and buff his base stats and base ability damage. maybe return the W passive. possibly make him a top/mid lane bruiser reliant on his shield?
: To the first one: It means that now you don't have to use crit chance runes, so you're free to use anything else, which basically buffed Yasuo. You got free rune slots. To the second one: That's not really a big deal tbh. Dealing 190% damage permanently with 2 items is better than dealing 200% damage permanently with 4 items (it usually takes about 4 items for a non-Yasuo champ to crit all the time, except for Trynda). To the third one: Silver 2 is a low elo. Not for being rude or something (and I can't really judge because I don't even play ranked becauseof the crappy system, maybe with the dynamic queue), but just because you main a champion in low elo, doesn't really mean that you know the real strengths and weaknesses of a certain champion. Just think about diamond- "mains" - Yeah, they might've played some games with a certain champ, but they don't really have any real in-depth information about a champion's true potential. And also: Yasuo is fairly balanced, right, but he's terribly designed. He has a really toxic and antifun kit, and just because someone managed to beat an _<insert champion name>_ player, doesn't mean that the champion is fine as he/she is.
Leblank , akali , kata , RIVEN and some others have a worst kit then yasuo.... they are more toxic and are easier to play. atleast yasuo needs skill , while with them you could literally one shot adcs and supports and escape. yasuo has no escape , that is his drawback. also 0 MR.
: Why is Yasuo allowed to have 100% crit with 2 items?
you can get 100% crit with the new adc items , does tha make all adcs OP ? no. also he needs a buff in the current meta... hes labeled a fighter and has no MR at all while even Riven has fuckin MR which is utter BS. yes he is easily countered.....
ZyXEL EUNE (EUNE)
: I didn't understand one single sentence you wrote, what is that gibberish? After few minutes of decyphering this.. I do main support, but one can get bored of any role. I'm quite sure you've got bored of, let's say, playing mid lane, or jungle, just like I get bored of playing supports. Also, AP Shaco is more aggro, that's why I like playing it. :)
then get educated, i just said if you are getting a non support champ to support for a support main , its wrong because a non support champ cant have the level of utility as a support champ. is not about agro , its about utility. u cant tank with ap shaco , nor stun nor do any thing but go die or stack ur boxes and hope u get lucky. just do what ever new support u want , just not in ranked....
Shiroe x (EUW)
: How is it "hypocritical" Play something other than Non meta supports is perfectly ok. Taking a break from it is ok to.
sure as long its not in ranked, i dont mind.
ZyXEL EUNE (EUNE)
: Flaming people over non-meta playstyles
but getting a not suppot - support is the worst thing a support main could do , isnt the like hypocrisy ? also im fine if you do it in normal , if you do this in ranked its another story....
Faizgod (EUNE)
: CAN WE PLEASE GET A SERVER IN THE MIDDLE EAST
Medo Majka (EUNE)
: Ne champ Deadeye?
i doubt it. also it reminds to much of caitlyn like champ with a few tweaks. more so sniper from dota.
: OK. So. "my argument is based on adcs/assassins" A peakstone of ignorance. An assassin should NEVER be able to kill a tank. Any tank in the game. Not unless he is under 30% hp without both summonners down. Assassins kill squishies. Squishies only. Period. They should not be good at anything else, maybe besides pushing. If they are taking down tanks, they are SUPER FED. ADCs are mostly AD based. Which makes an armor based tank feel strong. Rammus wants you to hit him while he has his W on. That's why he has a taunt and not a stun. He catches a priority target and forces him to attack and kill himself. Rammus is not an initiator. I can say that. His method of initiating is only based on movespeed, in perfect scenarios imbued with homeguard/teleport or flash. It is vastly inferior to the engages of Amumu, Sejuani, Malphite, Nautilus, Leona, Hecarim, Jarvan, Sion, Wukong and Zac. Some of these champions are not even pure "tanks", yet can still fullfill the role of tanky initiator better than Rammus. He is FAR from being the best initiator OR the best tank. Sejuani can go through walls. Rammus can not. Sejuani can go through minions while engaging. Rammus can not. Sejuani can make a 5 man stun. Rammus is glad when he hits 2 people with his Q and 1 person with his taunt. Want me to list other tanks perks over Rammus? He literally is not anything special. He is good at TWO things. ONE - pushing with his ult. Only with his ult, that would be better off used in teamfights.... or would it? Maybe it's really only useful on turrets. TWO - punishing attack speed autoattackers for attacking him. ....and because you are here to prove me wrong, i have to add a THREE - Being a tank, thus being immune to assassins trying to burst them. Seriously. This doesn't happen. Ever. EDIT: One more thing i forgot to mention. Neither Volibear, nor Sejuani need any AP items to deal damage. Their damage scales off HP. Not AP, Not AD. Just as Rammus scales off armor, which is what torments you so much. Unlike Sejuani or Volibear, Rammus suffers from an item called Black Cleaver, that chips down his armor by a % amount. Thus lowering his damage as well. I bet i can give you at least 3 reasons to pick any other tank than Rammus into a blind pick. And at least 30 reasons to pick any other tank than Rammus in a draft.
of course your to arrogant to admit any thing , nor does it matter having any fruitful or well put argument form you guys. your reason were really bad , you didnt even try to counter argue any of my facts of his anti AA ability , you just stuck with "sej and others have good initiation etc" its really pathetic having to post here with any one trying to comprehend any thing. so to your argument im still trying to find any reasonable answer as to why he is fine , having a bad initiation does not mean hes bad . and the reason why i am right is posted in all of my augments to you other tank , its just you dont bother to read in actuality what the other person wrote.
Rioter Comments
: OK. So. "my argument is based on adcs/assassins" A peakstone of ignorance. An assassin should NEVER be able to kill a tank. Any tank in the game. Not unless he is under 30% hp without both summonners down. Assassins kill squishies. Squishies only. Period. They should not be good at anything else, maybe besides pushing. If they are taking down tanks, they are SUPER FED. ADCs are mostly AD based. Which makes an armor based tank feel strong. Rammus wants you to hit him while he has his W on. That's why he has a taunt and not a stun. He catches a priority target and forces him to attack and kill himself. Rammus is not an initiator. I can say that. His method of initiating is only based on movespeed, in perfect scenarios imbued with homeguard/teleport or flash. It is vastly inferior to the engages of Amumu, Sejuani, Malphite, Nautilus, Leona, Hecarim, Jarvan, Sion, Wukong and Zac. Some of these champions are not even pure "tanks", yet can still fullfill the role of tanky initiator better than Rammus. He is FAR from being the best initiator OR the best tank. Sejuani can go through walls. Rammus can not. Sejuani can go through minions while engaging. Rammus can not. Sejuani can make a 5 man stun. Rammus is glad when he hits 2 people with his Q and 1 person with his taunt. Want me to list other tanks perks over Rammus? He literally is not anything special. He is good at TWO things. ONE - pushing with his ult. Only with his ult, that would be better off used in teamfights.... or would it? Maybe it's really only useful on turrets. TWO - punishing attack speed autoattackers for attacking him. ....and because you are here to prove me wrong, i have to add a THREE - Being a tank, thus being immune to assassins trying to burst them. Seriously. This doesn't happen. Ever. EDIT: One more thing i forgot to mention. Neither Volibear, nor Sejuani need any AP items to deal damage. Their damage scales off HP. Not AP, Not AD. Just as Rammus scales off armor, which is what torments you so much. Unlike Sejuani or Volibear, Rammus suffers from an item called Black Cleaver, that chips down his armor by a % amount. Thus lowering his damage as well. I bet i can give you at least 3 reasons to pick any other tank than Rammus into a blind pick. And at least 30 reasons to pick any other tank than Rammus in a draft.
Their damage scales off HP. Not AP, Not AD. Just as Rammus scales off armor, which is what torments you so much.- this agree with you i hate this fact and black cleave is not an item every one make willy nilly as you say. also sej damage does scale off ap , do care to look again.(only one ability does scale on HP , nor does it make a huge difference ) rammus may not have the prek of going through walls and 5 man stunning people , but when he gets to your adc , it ends. his presences is tf is better , yes he can not 5 stun people but he can last longer and dish out more dps. do tell me the reason as to why rammus is so popular currently , with a good winrate? its because he does not fall off easily. sej does not gain 120 bonus armour, or taunt you for 2 sec making them follow you out of tower range or have ANTI AA ability or have a low cd ms boots or an 8 sec long ass ulti which deals tower damage and has short cd (rammus 60 all levels / sej 130/115/100) sej was/is a very good champ , but lets face it when some one starts a tf they dont bother about tanks , they go for adcs and rammus moving at 600+ ms at your adc , then taunting and killing them is not a good show. even of you body block his Q , he does not care he will get close enough to taunt the adc the end the dispute. you can not hit him because of his ant AA ability and his 400+~ armour or bother to get him last. sure he may be inferior to the engages of other tanks but he compensates for it in the tf. also if you catch an adc open he dies instantly. "He is FAR from being the best initiator OR the best tank." --- dude he is by far the BEST tank , not in case of initiator but the best tank in terms of tf presence and lasting. see the thing is that the game has the role off adc who use AA to win fights , rammus is the complete counter to this , isnt this why they nerfed thorn mail recently ? now if a champ completely counters ALL ADC that is with out a doubt broken. PS : my reference is with rammus and a certain class in the game , do not present me with a counter argument such as certain champ XYZ countering other champ ABC. it is specific to rammus countering a whole class , not one champ , not 2 but a whole class.( yasuo does not counter adc with a 4 sec wind wall , nor do assassins , lets face it they can be peeled off ) NO thorn mail does not hinder my argument because it is an item you get . have to save up for, while he gets it instantly and can go further tanky. not all tanks in every game make thorn mail it is situational , but having one off the bat for abuse s too much.
: There are a lot of wrong things in here. Let me get to them separately. Anti-aa-BS only works vs attack speed carries. Nasus cuts through Rammus, even though he is ad based. Sejuani can build full HP tank and be as tanky as rammus. And still deal megatons of damage with just CDR for her offensive stats. Volibear's below 30% hp sustain is hardcountered by ignite. Not his CC, initiate, aoe nor burst damage. Rammus can taunt only 1 person. Also he needs to get to the person, which can be blocked by minions and ally champions. So he basically needs to flash to get a good engage off. This is why Rammus is not THE BEST at his role. He is seriously limited in his usefullness against attack speed based AD carries that need hard focus. He is not a teamfight initiator. He is unfit for AoE comps. He doesn't deal that much damage if you don't attack him (Not the case of Volibear/Sejuani) Lifesteal works, if you pair it with magic resist. Like you should do when facing anybody with Thornmail. Rammus is a walking Thornmail champion. So yes, your answers are ridiculous and your stubborness and refusing to listen are laughable. Rammus is not OP.
"Nasus cuts through Rammus, even though he is ad based." my argument is based on adc/ assassins .... voli has only one CC which is a measly flip..... also how is rammus not an initiator ? how can u say some thing like that ? wtf. also rammus can build cdr and be better then sej.... and he too deals great amounts of aoe damage.... voli needs to hit some thing to deal aoe damage while rammus just need to chase you.... damn i haven even seen sej and voli since the cindr nerf lol, yes sej may deal more damage in some cases if she were to go AP , i agree with you , but taking her down is not a night mare... unlike rammus who got the major armour boost / high MS / anti aa . and you arguments of voli and sej are just pathetic. They may be tanky but they build certain items to get dps while rammus only builds tanky to get his dps , major difference. he dosent need ap or ad. though some off the cases i have seen people get ap tanky rammus and beat the crap out of people on diamond level... ( as seen on youtube ) you can not disagree with the fact that rammus is too tanky. to which he is too good for this meta. your adc / assassin crit kill you instead of the tanky rammus...
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Rammus doesnt need a nerf his winrate is high due to full ad comps and bad lws. Buff last whisper to ~50% bonus armor and look what happens
you just dont post any more please , you lost all credibility ...
: "tanky over time dps which compares to no-one" Lets see. {{champion:113}} is a tank. She has no activable armor/MR buff. She is better at catching people off guard and has damage scaling out of her HP. Unlike Rammus, her dps is not tied to her ultimate and thus, deals much more overall damage. Her ult can also lock in 5 people at once. Beat that, OP Rammus. {{champion:106}} is a tank. He has no activable armor/MR buff. His tankiness comes from HP and his god-so-broken HP scaling passive. He is similarly good to Rammus in terms of engage/peel. Unlike Rammus, he has BURST DAMAGE. Also, if ignored, he has some decent AoE dps. Hugely outdpses Rammus. You and your answers are being ridiculous. Rammus is a tank and he is not even the best at the role. He might only seem broken against Aspeed-reliant champions with no lifesteal. Namely Kog'maw and Vayne. And he loses to Vayne 1v1 after she gets Botrk.
As i said earlier his anti aa BS is OP , sej build tanky with certain AP items to make a decent bruiser , voli is just plain annoying with the hp stacking . you fail to see rammus does both rammus can taunt 5 people once he Q>flashes in , no denying it. voli is hard countered by morellos / ignite , so he is an easy take still.... you can hit them both with ease and kite them still with out the adc / assassin dying from AA them , but in case of rammus you either stand in his 8 sec ulti get taunted and cant hit him , other wise die in all situations scenario. My answers are not ridiculous , if you actually read them carefully and not be so arrogant , i only ask for his anti AA nerf and in certain areas. also rammus is a tank who is BEST at HIS ROLE , got tanky stats (y) , got ganking potential (y) , anti AA ability (y) , stun/taunt (y) aoe nuke (y) , dps by building armour (y). hell even is ulti damages towers wtf. life steal does not help against him cause he deals more damage then you do to him. also there are 4 off his team mates to worry about when he has taunted you.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: mate u are silver with 50% win rate and probably dont know much about the game. Rammus is definetly kiteable and with the assisstance of your team he isnt that big of a thread unless you fed him for nothing... You know what ? He doesnt kill u that fast if u just hit him because the more items he gets the more do you get. his drawbacks are 0 range no dashes/blinks and no burst dmg. His win rate with 55% is pretty good yeah but if he would be as OP as you would describe him he would have at least crossed the 60% mark He has nothing which prevents you from kiting... Any adc deals more dmg to tanks then they can deal to the adc (with good item choices tho) you say rammus can 1v5 but say the team fights with him? ok lets say he has follow up ... What do u think is scarier For an adc an adc a malp who knock ups over high range as slows and ms slows you ? Or a rammus who gets blocked or stunned by your team and deals a bit of dmg threw return dmg. or a zac who jumps on you and knocks u back 2 times ? rammus is strong because of too many full ad teams and his mid game efficency.(most games end mid game now) Its his role to have return dmg if u tke that away he would probably drop to 40% win rate because he is a basic champ which by no ways has many posibilities to fight. (Single target point and click taunt) Mr/armor boost with "thornmail" effect speedboost with knockup blocked by anything. ad for 33% armor aoe dps ult with good dmg if u stay in it. watch a high elo game with rammus in it which goes to late game or even mid game the players know how to deal with him. I would by no means say that he is weak but i wouldnt nerf him but buff the last whispers to 50% bonus armor
" that big of a thread unless you fed him for nothing..." Wow, thread eh ? nice to see i am writing to a competent literate guy... "He doesnt kill u that fast if u just hit him because the more items he gets the more do you get." do you understand what i said previously and what you are trying to say right now ? cause what ever you have written make zero sense .... he is a tank he has a very good catch-up ability with tanky over time dps which compares to no one. he dosent need to be kitted he only want you to hit him as much as you can.... HIS ANIT AA NEEDS A NERF. not a drastic one but none the less some thing.
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Ehm you know that was to make what u said seem dilly he doesnt have everything and he definetly has drawbacks... its not rly a gap closer unless u want to cc the frontline with it. Just a thing ^^ if he is THAT op that no one can fight him why doesnt he have at least 60% win rate?(no champ can do what u said so he would be worthy of a 70% win rate) he isnt that hard so skill doesnt count. Fed akali cant fight a rammus WITH an alistar ? Lol in which world did u live until now? akali has great burst and a good dps + sustain she will easily 1v1 him. Yeah usually the kog maw is way behind a rammus who engages. Example: You. Peel. FrontlineRammus. Frontline. Backline Kog wont hit u! a decent/mediocore adc(i consider myself as one because of low death ratios and positioning) will kite and keep an eye on the assassins so that he can kill them when they get cced once. tankyness has nothing to do with kiting ^^ kiting is hitting while moving an enemy is harder to kite if he: has range/slows/hard cc/cant get cced. Rammus is a melee with pretty weak cc and melee dps abilities. he aint weak and is a little on the strong side but OP nah not really.
yea having a 55~ winrate is not good eh ? but then again why people look to win rate i will never understand, its idiotic because there are too many factors in play. you can NOT kite some thing you cant NOT hit, that is my point. akali might , mind you MIGHT be able to 1v1 him with little hp left but no AD based champ will , that again is my point. HE IS TOO ANTI AA BUILT, nerf that on hit dps shitt. he has no draw backs and if so tell me , if you suggest Q body blocking that is just stupid.... other then that i see no reason why he wont Q flash in your face and kill you with the help of his team...
: Since the last RP "sale" was just a few weeks ago I wouldn't expect another one in the near future. These things normally only happen once a year.
damn , was away...
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D4RKEVA (EUW)
: you know you can kill him pretty easily? Im an adc main and later on these adc dont care about him: Kog maw,corki(mixed dmg) , draven , vayne , kalista These need good items: rest excelt marksmans like teemo or urgot. he is supposed to be strong mid/late game. His early is weak and his late is mediocore
you just contradict your self damn it , you say his late game is strong but then say its mediocre make up your mind. and if it wee easy for him to die as you say , i would not need to post this
D4RKEVA (EUW)
: Burst nope Range nope good long safe cc nope utility nope gap closer NOPE its a ms boost which is blocked Untargetability nope Stealth nope resets nope rammus is easily kited example me as a 4/1 kalista with 250 farm at 25 min kiting a fed rammus because of my alistar just staying in front of him. (To be fair i build mercurial/bt/bork cause of a zed) i healed more then he could deal if he would taunt me which he couldnt. i've got more examples from vayne, lucian , jinx and caitlyn.
you know hes a tank and does not need burst when he can deal good amounts of dps over time with out much else to do. he does have a gap closer be it if it can be blocked or not.... that is just stupid saying some thing which can be blocked once can not count. why would he need stealth hes a tank he has very good utility , you are not even trying. the taunt is OP you know....with that ulti of course. HE IS A TANK WHY WOULD HE NEED RESETS AND UNTARGETABILITY ?? ffs and still he is OP you see when you hit rammus even as a 4/1 kali with 250 farm you will die , EVEN with ali peeling for you because his ANIT AA ability is too much... also there is not a game int he world where he would not a have a team to aid him , you all assume that fighting him is a 1v5 thing and all his team mates are retarded or some thing and wont jump on you , that is really pathetic . what if there team has a zed and kogmaw what will you do then ? still try to kite him ? what if they have a Leblank ? still try to kite him ? its utter BS to say you will kite him with out his team helping him and just watching from the sidelines. and do you really think kiting a 4k hp 300+ armour tanks is easy ? REALLY ? cause its not.
Shiroe x (EUW)
: Well nautilus can stun you ever 3-4 seconds (not sure on the real time) But it's kinda pointless complaining about somebody who is doing his job. Guess you can kite him to death. Just work as a team to kill hill. Though i do see some of your points, but don't agree 100% on them.
naut is good and balanced. im complaining about ramms ability damage numbers , that is when you hit him you get more damage dealt then he takes. his abilities are too much , his taunt and anti aa is specific , which should be nerfed. he is doing his job all to well
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