Warheart1 (EUNE)
: The only thing that is a dam for tanks to be relevant again is conqueror rune thats all....as a tank main I feel like a boxing bag, getting kicked over and over again and cant fight back.
They are trying to keep conqueror in check a little now, that old mastery was far worse, the one that did a bunch of dmg for every aa you did, literally every damage dealer ran it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Luciferrx,realm=EUNE,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=2n3E2qaE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-16T14:46:43.341+0000) > > Tanks are bad at the moment.And that is because bruisers are way more strong and doing better job then tanks.No matter what you build tanks are just not a good pick at the moment. > > Why would you play tanks..when you have something like {{champion:92}} that have mobility dmg cc + can be pretty tanky if you build her corectly.The same for {{champion:24}} .With him you need {{item:3078}} {{item:3748}} and then can go full tank. > > You tanky..and can provide sooo mutch dmg.There is no need for tanks at all.Especially with conqueror still in the game. The problem with both Riven and Jax is that they are extremely farm dependent and soft in the early game which makes them extremely vulnerable to the carry-tops that we see today. I mean Vayne can own Riven but he has the mobility and the range as does Zed and Shen for example. These are great against pure (slow) tanks, but I still firmly believe that the meta for tanks hasn't really proliferated through the community because the pros aren't doing it and they sort of set the standard. You run a dyanmic more modern build for a tank and they are perfect counters to the bruisers and carry-tops that come out today. People are just refusing to adapt.. they want their tanks to build tanky ... and that's that. To which I will plagerize doctor Phil. Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy ...and win?
Would you have an example for me of a more dynamic and modern build?[](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/181052529344249856/578643035638726658/unknown.png) This is what I ran and I got flamed rather hard for it not being full tank and it having some ap since we needed a tank.
: she can't ult while grounded
That is correct, but I only have a small little pool, and she is invisble till really up close, I can't always pool her as there are more enemies to deal with, it's a real shitfest with 2 assassins that want to 1 shot my adc.
: What you can do is to duo with a good ADC and pamper him with knights vow and such items. They mostly have very decent tankstats while being inexpensive. And having a tank for and ADC is a godsent
I am just trying to grind mastery points, so I am afraid going duo ALL the time is a bit hard, but I do my best to have some fun people around to fumble around with, I never have anyone that wants to play ADC though, most of my friends and support mains, like myself. ^^
: I don't think there is such a thing as a pure tank build anymore, you can certainly do amazing with tank champions but you have to consider alternative builds and cross-overs. For example I play Malphite and he is an absolute blast, so rarely ever countered as he is so amazingly adjustable and dynamic. I mean you can play him top, mid, jungle or support with great results and his CC kit is absolutely devastating. Which is aw-some as the only Autofill you have to worry about is ADC. Today I start him of with a {{item:1056}} and harass like a boss. Champions like {{champion:17}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:13}} and {{champion:91}} melt which is awesome because you get to knock that bullshit out of the top lane where they have no business at all. Its amazing how quickly your up and running with a {{item:3285}} at which point all of these want to be tops are falling over themselves and the only the player has is to start building magic resist, which declaws them and if they don't you pretty much have a free kill every-time your ulti is up. Frankly this is really effective against other more common top laning tanks too. This sort of adaptable builds are possible with a lot of champions but I think the problem is that most players google "best build for X champ for X lane" and use the thing that first comes up rather than experimenting and trying out their own stuff. But even if your more into finding builds, some amazing players that are less know have come up with some great stuff you just have to dig a little deeper than the first thing that comes up on a google search. I think most of the "tanks suck" posts are because people have some sort of weird brand loyalty to specific types of builds. Like if your not pushing {{item:3068}} {{item:3075}} or {{item:3742}} then something is broken. I mean those items are still important and have their place, but the objective is to win your lane, get kills, and help your team drive to victory so you build towards whatever it takes to make that happen. Personally I love the current meta of the tank, its so much more fun.
I mean I don't mind playing against them at all, it seems like a breeze most of the time as you just kite them to death unless they have a great engage tool, like nautilus or malphite r. I will be sure to try out your build for malphite when I get to the rocky brother, however, where does my lovely little mouse friend teemo belong then, or shen? This isn't meant to be a "tank sucks" post I am just curios what the point is in playing a tank these days when everyone that builds dmg still kills you in 3-4 seconds.
fondof22 (EUW)
: Tanks are overpowered
This I could see, 4-3 seasons ago, not now, I am sorry, please elaborate if you wish to share it a little more :3
Luciferrx (EUNE)
: Tanks are bad at the moment.And that is because bruisers are way more strong and doing better job then tanks.No matter what you build tanks are just not a good pick at the moment. Why would you play tanks..when you have something like {{champion:92}} that have mobility dmg cc + can be pretty tanky if you build her corectly.The same for {{champion:24}} .With him you need {{item:3078}} {{item:3748}} and then can go full tank. You tanky..and can provide sooo mutch dmg.There is no need for tanks at all.Especially with conqueror still in the game.
I am having lots of success with Jax myself, he is great to play, he seems to scale really well and I love going oldschool with hextech gunblade like the good old days, ap bursty style. I just hope that I get tanks over soon so I can play with a smile and have lots of fun soon again. I had to sit through 10 games of nasus where it mattered little how I did even if I tped bot, since you are nasus, unless you get to late you aren't a god yet :p.
: then you are playing it wrong eve shouldn't be able to reach you with w and as long as she doesn't W you your mercs are good enough of a base resistance you also can deny her E and her R with your pool dealing with eve is not about resists but about proper play the other champions if you want to tank you need armor which you had 0 of
They had 4 AP and aatrox, I was peeling for my draven, eve could kill me with just her q + r. I had 300 mr in total when ulting, which was completely useless, I was just getting %%%%ed inside of my r. I have no idea how else I could play it then try to keep eve from being useful by shoving her into my pool which nullifies her e and r from being cast. Draven also got 1 shot if she just got to e on him, when he did manage to keep alive, she would just pop him with her r. Keep in mind I am talking late late late game here, for these days at least, 50 minutes in game.
: So sucks to play Vayne when you play against a {{champion:54}} {{champion:53}} {{champion:98}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:154}}
I never got to play against vayne as singed, but I can imagine it's a chore indeed, I got level 5 vayne out of the way already, it's just not my champion :p My poor support friend who had to watch me kill myself multiple times trying to make a cool play and just getting cced into 5 people :')
: Except {{champion:33}} {{sticker:galio-happy}}
Ahhh yes, my boy the ball, he was lovely to play, finished him off recently, he was a great joy to jungle as, solid repeat ganks and that osolovely taunt of 2.25s hmmmm, totally agree with you rainfollower ^^
MissJJess (EUW)
: I am currently trying out {{champion:111}} and fun him great fun (as support) though the late game I feel like a bit of a 3rd wheel and have to hang back more :( (not ranked)
That is what I am feeling too, I will try out nautilus a lot more soon (9th on the list of random champs to level.) And I will try him in the support role, at least he has solid undodgable engage, except if the frog man himself is around. P.S. I never played ranked, I haven't since season 3.
: thats not the point yes bruisers are op at the moment and overshadow tanks in every aspect but that doesn't mean he was playing tanks properly in the first place play ornn into riven buy sunfire and gauntlet and enjoy your 450 armor at lvl 13 feel like a wall and see how riven tries to break it with her head but ends up cracking her skull
I was playing full mr into a evelynn, who 2 shot me. I build thornmail against an Aatrox since that mad lad heals so much when you have to sit back as the tank, so that works and all, but when I get to late game the eve just squishes me like I am a carry, which clearly, my full tank singed, is not.
Meltzahar (EUW)
: It sucks to play tank when you go against a {{champion:67}}
Yeah but I am seeing a lot less of those red glass wearing tumbling women since they ruined her favorite item {{item:3124}}
: Tanks aren’t relevant at the moment, anti tank is way too strong so there’s not much you can do to stop it. Best way would be skip tanks for now and focus on everyone else until riot sort this out, or play the tanks full damage
But I currently am looking at sej who is 1 win away from being done and singed I am going to be done with after this game, it is just awful to grind 7k poinst with 30 loss streaks since the team spam pings me if I go ap and just flames all game long. If I go tank the enemy team will just spam emote me for being a season 4 player who things tanks are relevant.
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