Jinwu (EUW)
: People "gaming" the report system?
Yes, this is true. I have my other account banned, because i always was a tryhard, doing everything to win, and some people just don't give a %%%. So i attack them verbally our of frustration. And of course, they can intentionally lose a game for you, they will not be punished, but if you said bad words to such bad person, you are punished. And I understand riot, looking at chat log is easy, and watching the whole game to determine if a person is just really bad player, or intentionally trolling, takes lots of time and energy. So yes, it is really unfair, but not really possible to change. Have to adapt or quit. I used to vent my frustration at trolls by flaming, now much less.
: And how should his trolling be detected ? Taking smite as a laner should be bannable ? - hm no. There were legitimate double smite strats, and funnels with that, so that's a no-go. Taking jungle camps as a laner should be bannable ? - I'd have to report everyone as a jungler, in every single game of mine, since my ADC would rather spend 40 seconds for 200 gold on crugs, then take 2 waves on bot. My mid wants my blue. My adc wants my red. My top farms my frog on cooldown. It's normal, and it's not bannable. You're just an ass if you do it, especially if you're putting your jungler behind. So now back to our main point. How would you detect that nunu's trolling ? Bad win-rate ? - it's Bronze 4 for god's sake, every1 is bad. You have to understand, that reported players aren't reviewed by humans, it's impossible. There are more than a couple of million matches per day, you can't check them all out. There's a script that can recognise certain patterns, like dying under mid tower once every 45 seconds and so froth, and the chat. That's all. No complex troll strats, griefing, lane win-trading, bro-lane vs a nasus/vayne etc can be detected. > Perfect example of riot policy. This is not Riot policy. This is you not understanding how the system works. If you want to change something, instead of ranting on Riot on the public forums made by players for players and controlled by players, write a ticket to Riot support's player behaviour division, and get the Nunu's match human-reviewed.
1. He was MID. He chose nunu and smite as MID. He were never mid lane, from the start. Just left it open and went straight to the monster i was killing, blue buff. Stole it and continued. 2. He was stealing all jungle from me, not that he needs blue or something, he goes only jungle. I had almost nothing. 3. Sometimes he fought with enemy just for fun. If teammate fights near him, he stops in one place and watches, emoting thumbs up and so on. Just letting you die, then moves away to jungle. Yes, if riot people are not watching the game after you report, then nothing can be done to identify trolls. Sadly.
Roselvet (EUW)
: Repercussions for reports regarding trolling, AFK and inting - (solution to a long standing issue?)
Seems like a great idea, with the exception of flaming. I don't care about a person if he starts flaming, only if he does things to lsoe, like trolling. Inting, afking, stealing lanes/farm from others, all the intentionally bad things. If he calls me a moron or something else, i don't give a %%%, i can mute him if i want to. Banning for flaming is nonsense, maybe a person is doing his best, tryhard and loses it when teammates are making him lose. So forcing to normal games for trollling/inting is a good idea.
: Give us one free dodge per day/week
while i agree the free dodge (or two) a week would be reasonable, i don't think they should lower the penalty. It's already too low, and i'm so tired of these dodgers wasting my time. One dodge, wait, enter lobby, ban, pick champions, another dodge.. i can't wait forever.
: Is it trolling day today?
i was thinking the same. Yesterday i got a nunu mid with smite following me in junglw and stealing all jungle camps, trolling all the game. Today i got ADC who pick amumu and was never bot, just going through map everywhere, and if a teamfight happens near him, he suddenly stops full hp and does nothing, just watches us die near him and then emotes thumbs up and moves away laughing at us. Troll week, i'd say. What is worst - riot doesn't give a %%%% about intentionally losing games. Report almost never works. Punishment is only if you gewt tilted by these trollers and say something in chat. In this situation they are quick to react. I am starting to think if i should create troll acc and just do it for fun in Ranked, not caring for wins, trolling my picks, making team lose and so on. If i stay silent and just laugh at team raging at me, nothing happens.
: what do you find humorous about number 7? that kind of concerns me
well, first of all, he will never murder his grandma. And him hoping she will scream while being murdered is kind of funny. Difficult to explain for you, but thank you for asking.
: This guy isn't punished for some reason
number 1 and 2 not worth putting here. number 7 kind of funny.
Rioter Comments
: Why you are ignoring Udyr for this long ?
I am sorry to derail, but can't ignore this - i think udyr is a very very strong champ. He just destroys in jungle and change the game. 1 vs 1 hardly beatable, except some cases. Are you sure you want him changed - maybe he will be worse. Like your mentioned Sejuani - I barely see any seju after the rework.
Rioter Comments
CJXander (EUNE)
: Got banned because "trollers" in my team!
so you wanted to share with community that you got a person banned? And want praise for it? Ok. GJ man, you did well. Congratulations on banning a person and posting it on da interwebs as a revenge. True hero.
: Tilt champ, or why i just h8 lol
everyone saying Yi is ok, and "people need to learn how to play against him", are either delusional, or main Yi. Don't need to convince you - you perfectly know that Yi in the hands of average than Ok player is able to wipe teams. Yi, zed, yasuo, vayne, garen are op champions and can carry hard given a little chance.
: if words/negativity affect you that much you sound just like the people you describe "perma tilted players" lol
> [{quoted}](name=rito are scambgs,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=ETEAhAy2,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-09T06:47:56.277+0000) > > if words/negativity affect you that much > > you sound just like the people you describe "perma tilted players" lol I fully agree with you here. Seems like just an overly sensitive person.. And looking at his responses it's obvious. Calling your post stupid and irrelevant. No wonder he can't handle chat :)
quibstab (EUW)
: i would like to know what makes someone stop playing and start typing toxic comments
again the carebears. There is the Mute button, please use it, if you are so sensitive. If you do something bad that makes people lose, you will get flamed. Get used to it. You will also get flamed for nothing. Therefore use the fking Mute button and let people play. Why do you want people banned, when YOU are the reason for loss.
Zerpentiz (EUW)
: The Elephant in the Room... Can we fix it? Here's a suggestion...
i don't think toxicity is a problem in this game. I don't care for bad words and people getting tilted, it's a normal human behavior. There is MUTE button. You mute the person if they annoy you, and calmly continue the game. Maybe even get carried to win by the toxic muted person, and thank him later. Some people are calm, some are bad tempered. Human nature. The problem is people's behavior that makes you lose, not the "toxicity". Trolls, feeders, people who intentionally loses after some unfortunate event as their mean of revenge. Toxicity? have you ever been online before? We are people. There is a MUTE button.
: why does no1 play maokai?
I also noticed, how good maokai is "on paper", when you read about his skills. But when you play it.. You need a good start. He's very easy to kill low lvl, has no damage and no mobility. Other champs like Xin, udyr, Lee, Yi, Kayn can just destroy him early
Rioter Comments
Noctiss (EUNE)
: "stop chat and play"
I understand your frustration, we are all different. Stop chat and play is said because people sometimes get involved in chatting too much and lose focus on game - like farming, helping others, checking minimap what's going on and so on. There is always more chances to win if you do not argue or blame others for their mistakes, as it does not contribute to them becoming better, just tilting them and yourself. So stop chat and play :)
: Vital message to Riot: Can I get injustice? What is going on with this Player Behaviour system???
Report has long ago became a REVENGE TOOL for the bad players. There are "minmaxers", who do all they can to win - concentrate, focus, help others, and, naturally, expect the same from others. Then someone just feeds, pushes, gets ganked, feed, push again, gets ganked 5 times, still pushes, feeds, doesn't care what you say, doesn't help you and just farm when you come to help, and you just die. Then you are frustrated and say something. Then they report you, you get banned. It's just a revenge tool for bad players, the ones who say "it's just a game, i just want to have fun, so i'll push again and get ganked for 5th time, i don't care if you lose" in Ranked. Bad players are never punished, even if they are intentionally bad. Maybe if they feed 0-15 -1 and admit it in chat, that they feed intentionally. Not the ones who don't care for winning and ruin hours and hours of others lives : ) Only the "flamers" get punished, because saying to a moron, that he's a moron, is a punishable offense. Basically, if someone is silently punishing you with intentionally bad play, you just have to bend over and lose.
: He is just there to destroy Iron/Bronze and Arams, he sucks where people are actually skilled (and in Silver)
> [{quoted}](name=Dividedby0error,realm=EUW,application-id=39gqIYVI,discussion-id=Em3y9EYn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-11T20:14:31.048+0000) > > He is just there to destroy Iron/Bronze and Arams, he sucks where people are actually skilled (and in Silver) Trust me. in silver, if Yi is not brainless, he destroys.
: What about when you intentionally dodge when you get a troll in lobby? Like autofill who spams "mid or feed" and no one wants to swap with them. 10LP loss to them too?
> [{quoted}](name=Healerius Hiiri,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=p6V5oeep,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-11T17:57:08.003+0000) > > What about when you intentionally dodge when you get a troll in lobby? Like autofill who spams "mid or feed" and no one wants to swap with them. 10LP loss to them too? From my experience, the largest part of dodges, like 19 of 20, are just dodges after checking op.gg. No one talks in chat, no one says anything wrong, or trolls, or troll picks. Someone just leaves. Most likely after checking op.gg and finding something they don't like.
: >But people are intentionally dodging literally about 50% of games. Everyday, everygame. Well, every second game. Needs to be fixed. Excuses, excuses : ) Can you pull a source for that? I feel you're over exaggerating a lot. And again, if people dodge multiple times within a short time period, that timer keeps climbing.
> [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=p6V5oeep,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-11T17:30:40.596+0000) > > Can you pull a source for that? I feel you're over exaggerating a lot. And again, if people dodge multiple times within a short time period, that timer keeps climbing. Hi : ) Sorry, I, obviously, cannot provide any statistics on that - it's all based on my personal guess from my personal experience : )
Takumaron (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=A Snarky Cyclone,realm=EUW,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=p6V5oeep,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-11T16:20:04.535+0000) > Whilst I get that it sucks, handing our harsher punishments from the get go isn't really fair to those who may have simply just disconnected, or whatever other reason pulled them away from the client before a game. I will give you other arguments but not this one. It's not fair that you get punished for the game randomly deciding that you need to take a break yet it happens (I mean random disconnect while internet is working (happening to two people at the sime time)). But i agree that increasing the penalty wouldn't be that good of an idea-sometimes you just have to dodge the troller/flamer
> [{quoted}](name=Takumaron,realm=EUNE,application-id=NzaqEm3e,discussion-id=p6V5oeep,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-11T16:37:18.257+0000) > > I will give you other arguments but not this one. It's not fair that you get punished for the game randomly deciding that you need to take a break yet it happens (I mean random disconnect while internet is working (happening to two people at the sime time)). > > But i agree that increasing the penalty wouldn't be that good of an idea-sometimes you just have to dodge the troller/flamer To be honest, i was not disconnected from Champ select even once in several years. And if it accidently happens twice a year, it's nothing. But people are intentionally dodging literally about 50% of games. Everyday, everygame. Well, every second game. Needs to be fixed. Excuses, excuses : ) And yes, they are not dodging the second time in a row because of higher penalty. But if it was 10LP in the first place, no one would dodge at all, except extreme cases. And now it's a usual way of playing for lots of them.
HoR RooneR (EUNE)
: Nerf YI Pls
Yi is ridiculous. Wait in bush, engage when teamfight has already began, R and kill all team. Usual.
Rioter Comments
: nerf yi late game or wits end
also, OP mentioned Wit's End. What I also noticed, is how ridiculous Spear of Shojin is on Yi. As if his attack speed is not enough from his R, Spear of shojin gives you 50% more attack speed, and every attack returns 20% of you CDs :D Really? He can alpha strike every two three seconds, and avoid all cc. Just wack huge true damage at insane speed and disappear every 3 seconds, also dealing additional damage while being untargettable :D Oh, and heal insanely at the same time. It's ok.
: nerf yi late game or wits end
Yi should be nerfed, and only those who play Yi may argue otherwise. Same with yasuo. Yi can start bad, then a couple kills and later in game he's unstoppable. Wait for a teamfight in bush, engage in mid fight, R, win. All the talks that "he is ok" are just pretentious blabber.
Midroid (EUNE)
: I'm tired of this
Just mute them. If i am being attacked for false reason, and i know they are wrong, i am right - i just mute their pings, chat and emotes. Takes 5 seconds. I then announce in chat that i muted them, and concentrate on my game. Don't hear a thing from them anymore. Leaving is hurting yourself. I assume it was ranked.
: All my (non preset) rune pages are gone, and I can't make more than 2?
Same here, all my created rune pages are gone. When i create new ones, they have a red exclamation mark, and i cannot choose these pages in ranked. Only default pages are available.

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